Excess exercise may worsen Parkinson’s sy... - Cure Parkinson's
Excess exercise may worsen Parkinson’s symptoms, report says
John Pepper's warning at the time was that his fast walking therapy only worked with an hour of training every other day. The rest day was essential. He had previously applied more intense exercises daily, which had adverse effects during an earlier stage of his Parkinson's disease.
I have had a similar experience, not only with exercise but also with all intensive social activities that require significant energy. I always try to schedule a calm, stress-free day, although that is not always possible.
Are individual case reports based on subjective and unvalidated claims worthy of significant controversy in the first place? Such examples allow little more broad application than if the differences were attributed to height or elevation above sea level.
N=2 may not provide conclusive evidence regarding the risks of overtraining, but it is likely a sentiment many can relate to. The reason we can’t indefinitely increase our training activities is inherently tied to the PD condition itself. Everyone will experience this to some extent. My fear of permanent damage seems unfounded, yet moderation and balance are crucial for me. It’s all about mastering the art of finding that "sweet spot": being active enough to reap the benefits, but not so active that you exhaust yourself or take unnecessary risks.
Exercise makes you feel good, as well as makes you stronger, which makes you automatically exercise more.
Since this is subjective for each individual, I find it almost impossible to identify the correct dose of exercise and not go beyond
I offer this not as a contradiction, but simply as another data point.
Exercise has never made me feel good. Whatever that "runners high" or that feeling of emotional warmth is, I don't get it when I exercise. At best, I get an academic pleasure from knowing that I have done something good for me. Which is to say ... everyone's different. I'm not sure my lack of exercise-good-feeling is related to my PD, but that would be interesting.
I think it's partly caused by free radicals as is known fact that body's natural ability to detox itself is limited and if you overload it too much it simply gets exhausted and the power capacity gets(temporarily)lowered... but how can we find the sweet spot?Do we have to push over limit to get the benefits of exercise,if so how we find the limit for ourselves, what measure or what to focus on? There is too many factors playing in this game... functional medicine should give us the answer but again, what should we listen to, what to measure, what to take or not to take....does anybody know some general exercise guidelines/rules Which could be transferred/modified to work with our condition?
Finding your exercise sweet spot is a dynamic process, not a fixed point. It requires patience, self-compassion, and a willingness to adjust based on how you feel each day. By combining general guidelines with careful self-monitoring you can harness the power of exercise to manage your PD effectively and safely. Keep experimenting, keep listening to your body, and celebrate the progress you make. And if you go over your line because it’s too much fun, that doesn’t happen to me with sports, that’s not a drama.
A recommended PD exercise schedule:
I believe the goal with exercise is to get your heart rate up to 80% of its max. rate - at least three times a week for 30 minutes. We need to get our bodies moving.Personally, I like to push myself but not beyond my limit. Then slowly and gradually increase the intensity a little bit each month.
Much of this is true of anyone exercising. I know lots of non-pd fit people who do too much exercise also, who have similar problems.
If you up your energy output you need to up your energy intake levels too, via diet. Also you need to recover and rest.
True of all people.Moderation and balance.
Das ist doch auch eine gute Information. Danke für das Teilen!
Es gibt doch Studien, bei denen die Teilnehmer 3x pro Woche 1 Stunde Sport machten, darunter Boxen, hiervon rund 20min eine HF von 80 bis 85% der maximalen HF erreichten und nach 6 Monaten 90% der Probanden ihren PD stoppen konnten... 3mal die Woche... das scheint auszureichen. Und es gab noch eine Studie, wo Teilnehmergruppen entweder 80% oder 60% der max. HF erreichten - und nur die Gruppe mit 80% einen signifikanten Vorteil hatten.... Sport ist also sehr sinnvoll, aber nicht zu viel und nicht zu wenig. Ich merke selbst, dass ich nach viel Sport Erholung brauche und dann auch mal den ganzen Tag nicht viel mache.....
TWO people. Two. That doesn’t make a case study
The old adage comes to mind - too much of anything is no good. And that is true for just about anything. I am a great proponent of exercise, and I do so regularly but I intersperse hard workouts with mild ones. E.g., if I take boxing on Thursday, I will do an at-home exercise just to move my body in motion. I think the most important take away is to keep moving, whether it be walking the dogs or taking a hike. Sometimes, for me anyway, I always wonder if I am doing enough, which will lead me to do more exercising; I think that mindset is why people over-exercise.
Study of 2 people first of all. Secondly, isn't it possible that these 2 people hit the throttle too hard right off the bat. I mean, a 25 year old healthy person that is running a marathon for the first time does a 4.5 month training plan to work up to longer runs. These 2 people with parkinson's, average age 66, with no current exercise program, starts hitting it hard. No wonder they are exhausted!
For many years I've been unhappy with myself for being too lazy to exercise properly. So finally aprox late 2023, I started jogging, which gradually increased to hard running, till I run out of breath, almost daily. Believing this will help me, particularly train my heart to be stronger. It did the opposite
After several weeks, I noticed pain in my heart even when I'm walking at normal pace. Then I started having extreme fever, which reversed my activeness, making almost bedbound for several weeks. Now at that time, I never attributed the fever to my extreme jogging but instead, last summer, I went to my GP to seek answers and how to get better. It was really very awful fever to the point that I was fearful I might have some form of cancer. I did so many blood tests, PSA test, x-ray, CT scan... thankfully the good news, I didn't have cancer. The bad news, since nothing was found, I was only advised to take paracetamol to douse out the symptoms
Now with hindsight, I'm attributing my awful fever that lasted several months, to my hard jogging to exhaustion (and of course the obvious one, my painful heart)
The moral or lesson of this long story of mine, which I learnt the hard way, - don't exercise till exhaustion/out of breath... infact don't over exercise at all
hormesis. A little of something that hurts is a good thing.. exercise, plant compounds, minerals and trace elements, light, heat, cold, medications.
Too much is bad. The old “u curve”
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