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evenshoshan

The video doesn't work.

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Rupa88 in reply toevenshoshan

Sorry

Look it up in you tube

Newly approved Parkinson’s medication helps mum regain mobility | 9 News Australia

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evenshoshan in reply toRupa88

OK, got it.

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Bolt_Upright

Newly approved Parkinson’s medication helps mum regain mobility | 9 News Australia

youtu.be/NdXQQ10HUb0?si=cOt...

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Bolt_Upright

So this is the subcutaneous pump. I had not expected it to more effective than pills, but apparently can be amazing in 50% of the cases (per the video).

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Rupa88 in reply toBolt_Upright

It should be better

It wont have fluctuating levels like oral one

Like insulin pump which has much better control on insulin dependent diabetes

I know a man in USA who has been on it for 3 yeras and states that his off time has reduced from 8 hours to one hour per day

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GigiOf8 in reply toRupa88

3years, I thought it was new?

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Rupa88 in reply toGigiOf8

it was trial duration

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GigiOf8 in reply toRupa88

3years? I thought it was new?

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AGH_1966 in reply toRupa88

'It wont have fluctuating levels like oral one' - which is much truer than I ever imagined. So many things can negate our meds on the way to the intestine - in my case many many many foods - that I don't understand how a neurologist can say what is a high dose. I may take more meds than you but less may reach my intestine uninhibited.

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Trig27 in reply toBolt_Upright

it should be a lot better than pills. oral levodopa destroys gut motility. PD patients avoid protein due to timing issues. Malnutrition is very common. Subq administration will avoid a lot of these problems.

Plus you will get a more consistent bolus of dopamine administration, including at night. Dopamine in the healthy follows a circadian rhythm which peaks at night and troughs at midday, pretty much the opposite of people who take oral C/L.

It's going to be huge.

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Gcf51 in reply toTrig27

Yes, HUGE... at 62,000 Canadian dollars a year, it will break their health care system.

Says special formulation of Levodopa, I wonder if they add stuff to keep it from being changed to dopamine in the body. I believe dopamine in the body is responsible for most of the side effect of C/L.

Will be interesting to see if she develops side effects.

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Gcf51 in reply toGcf51

Has anyone watched the movie "Awakenings". Really Awesome that people in a comatose state where awaken after 30 yr only to develop dyskinesia from high dose levodopa. I had tears in my eyes when they were awakened. The movie never mentioned that after only one summer that their dyskinesia was cause by the levodopa. Based on A True Story (I wonder if in 1990 they knew of the side effects.)

youtube.com/watch?v=7exeVt7...

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WinnieThePoo in reply toGcf51

"I wonder if they add stuff to keep it from being changed to dopamine in the body"I rather imagine that's the reason it contains carbidopa

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Gcf51 in reply toWinnieThePoo

At the time I doubt if they added carbidopa. The true story was I think the early 60's.

FYI: ... Lewy bodies can also cause Lewy body dementia. An autopsy three months after Williams' death showed he had this, rather than Parkinson's disease. "Clinically he had PD, but pathologically he had diffuse LBD. The predominant symptoms Robin had were not physical—the pathology more than backed that up. cbsnews.com/news/robin-will...

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WinnieThePoo in reply toGcf51

I don't know where to start. I assumed your comment which I quoted, referred to the new subq product

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MBAnderson in reply toGcf51

did you mean 62K/year?

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Gcf51 in reply toMBAnderson

Yes, Edited and changed.

Thanks

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park_bear in reply toTrig27

"oral levodopa destroys gut motility."

Link to evidence of this please.

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Trig27 in reply topark_bear

this is well documented, see footnotes 25-39 here for a long list of published experiments:

journals.asm.org/doi/10.112...

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park_bear in reply toTrig27

Wrong twice over, at least. Destroy literally means: "put an end to the existence of" which is not the case here. What you have evidence for is that dopamine affects motility. As WTP points out, levodopa medication is not the same as dopamine.

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Trig27 in reply topark_bear

are you really that pedantic?

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park_bear in reply toTrig27

Do you really think the difference between destroy and reduce is pedantic?

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Gioc in reply topark_bear

IMO The context or situation that a PwP's gut is in is well described here by DR Bloom in this NoSilverBullet interview from minute 20:46.

youtu.be/QqCa5r9v0gY?si=-M7...

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WinnieThePoo in reply toTrig27

There are a lot of posts today which muddle levadopa and dopamine. This is another. Dopamine slows gut motility, and cells in gut produce dopamine for that purpose. Levadopa /carbidopa is absorbed intact. And carbidopa inhibits the production of dopamine

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Zella23

it is available in Scotland but as stated it needs trained staff to be able to administer and monitor it!

parkinsons.org.uk/news/grou...

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bassofspades

just my guess, but the person in the video probably had absorption issues with the pill form. This is not a new drug, just a new method of delivery. But what the heck, it works, right!!?? She definitely improved!

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pdpatient

This is not yet available in the USA

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