Repurposed bhaptic Gloves into vibrating gloves

[Natajo]

Hi everyone,

I just came across the whole chat about finding a way to create vibrating gloves for Parkinson Disease. I am about to order some from Bhaptic and reprogram them with the code provided by Orbital. I wish I could get a feedback from you guys to ensure this does work. I intend to get these for my best friend who is going downhill fast. Thank you so much for your answer !

Nathalie-Josée from Paris

[LeharLover62]

I think it’s a high potential to work. I haven’t built gloves yet, but notice that there are more haptic motors on these gloves than the designs people are building. Bhaptic has 12 not 8 total vibrators. I assume this means the code for the pulsing would need to be changed?

[WinnieThePoo in reply to LeharLover62]

They are also fundamentally different from key aspects of the Tass glove. It doesn't necessarily mean they do nothing, but they are very different.

[Ethin]

I don't think one can 'ensure' or assure that these gloves work, but there are a number of positive experiences reported on this forum. I started using the TactGloves with the iphone app by DanTeoh in early summer last year, and then switched to gloves that are more similar to the original TassGloves in Nov. My very positive experience (increased mobility, reduced dystonia, reduced medication) started with the TactGloves and continued and deepened with the TassGloves. As the latter ones are better documented, I would recommend that you try to obtain a pair of them, or a DIY variant of them, first. Failing that, you could also give the TactGloves a try. Naturally, there's no guarantee that they work for your friend, but it may be worth to give it a shot. However, an essential aspect of the therapy is to wear the gloves for a substantial amount of time every day (targetting in the order of 4 hrs) for a substantial period (targeting 3 to 6 months). That can be quite a challenge. Good luck!

[bigl62 in reply to Ethin]

How or where did you get the tass gloves from in November? is anyone out there sharing tass gloves like a library book?

[Ethin in reply to bigl62]

My gloves are homemade, but they use precise LRA tactors like in the TassGloves. My stimulation paradigm is slightly different from the published ones, using digits 1-4 of both hands, unmirrored, with temporal jitter, and randomization of the individual stimulus intensity at a low level (generally, the right intensity is hard to guess as there are no objective values for it in the literature). Despite these differences to the original, the glove therapy appears to work well, suggesting that not all published settings may be absolutely critical.

[Natajo in reply to Ethin]

Hello,

Thank you for your answer.

Where did you get those tactors ?

Did you follow pdbuzzboard video to construct them ?

He seems to give a very step by step advice for building them.

How long ago did you start the treatment ?

Which are the major improvements that you did notice ?.

Nathalie-Josée

[Natajo in reply to Natajo]

Sorry, I just realized that you gave part of the answers about your health in your first comment. My first two questions remain valid.

[Neurosmith in reply to Ethin]

Thanks for sharing Ethin. I'm in the process of building gloves for my wife with LRA tactors. Which LRAs did you go with? I've been trying very hard to precisely follow the parameters outlined by Tass in his papers. I ran a test yesterday with the LRAs in their housings with them just sitting on the table. I was surprised at how strongly they vibrated - I was hoping the vibration would be more contained within the Z axis. I'm curious about the vibration in yours - is it strong enough to make them 'bounce around' like in the following video link?

youtube.com/shorts/527AibKD7_o

[Ethin in reply to Neurosmith]

Apologies for the late reply, due to traveling. I am using the C-ML tactors. Yes, they can also bounce around if driven strongly enough. But under normal circumstances that would not happen, because I am using them at quite a low intensity (<14 out of a range up to 255). At that level, I can still feel the vibrations on the underside, but much of the energy is on the other side, directed towards the fingertips.

[Miss604]

Hi everyone, I’m a mom with Parkinson’s, and I’ve been using the bhaptic gloves to help with my symptoms. I feel like they’ve been helping, but I want to make sure I’m using them correctly.

• How long should I wear them each day?

• What intensity level is best?

• Is it true that using them more often increases the benefits, or is there a limit?

I sometimes get occasional headaches, but no other side effects. Could this be related to the gloves? I’d love to hear from others about their experiences. Thanks!