Spartan Diet. Ideal for Parkinson's? - Cure Parkinson's
Spartan Diet. Ideal for Parkinson's?
my dear friend, could you please describe or elaborate on things you post instead of dropping a link and not explaining your thoughts on it? Thank you.
If I could improve on it I would but I can't so I shouldn't. By posting without commenting I agree with the author and I find Dr Peter Rogers to be awesome! Perhaps my thought and comment maybe in the title question? Spartan Diet. Is it the ideal Parkinson's diet? I agree. What do you think?
It's basically all sugar. That's what carbs turn into. He makes a point of saying "old guys don't need protein"
Well, imo they do--otherwise they become frail and break their hips. And sugar (also imo) is the number one cause of inflammation, and inflammation is what drives neurodegeneration.
In my experience the high fat diet made me severely constipated. Corrected by a low fat vegetarian diet.
Oh yes, I agree, vegetables are important for that! But one thing does not exclude the other.
It's not constipation I worry about dying from, it's neurodegeneration. And sarcopenia.
Constipation in Parkinson's does not cause direct neurodegeneration, but it can indirectly contribute to the progression of the disease. It is believed that disruption of the autonomic nervous system causes constipation, which can lead to the accumulation of harmful proteins in the intestines. These proteins can cause inflammation and damage to nerve cells. In addition, constipation causes a greatly reduced effect of your C/L medication. Treating constipation is so very important for your PD. It is in my opinion in the top 3 with insomnia and stress.
amykp,
Melatonin has shown to work against neurodegeneration as I have written extensively about on this forum and it also works against the mitochondrial deficits and perturbations seen in PD, but melatonin also works against Sarcopenia as discussed here :
sciencedirect.com/science/a....
Here is a relevant quote from the review :
' It is currently known that it can protect the mitochondria of skeletal muscle cells, maintain the number of muscle fibres, partially reverse the pathological changes of ageing muscle tissue, and increase muscle strength in patients with sarcopenia. A large number of microRNAs are expressed during cell ageing, that in turn provides a biological background to age-related diseases, like sarcopenia. Increasing studies have found an interaction between melatonin and miRNAs, suggesting that melatonin can be used in the treatment of sarcopenia. The increased expression of inflammation-associated miRNA-483 in elderly patients may be the basis for the age-dependent decrease in melatonin secretion,that may play a role in the morbidity of sarcopenia. Melatonin is closely related to sarcopenia. It has a wide range of effects on sarcopenia and has good application prospects for the prevention and treatment of sarcopenia. '
Art
I take it, 10mg a night. What is the dose supposed to be?
But I also am very careful now to make sure I get enough protein (there is a big scoop of whey protein in the coffee I'm drinking right now) and I exercise (lift weights) four days a week.
The lowest effective dose used in a non sleep PwP study was 10 mg. The highest dose used in a PwP study was 50 mg/day in two divided doses of 25 mg each for the participants.
The 50 mg/day study returned the participants oxidative stress levels to healthy control levels and significantly improved mitochondrial function. These are two things that most people would not necessarily notice a significant change of symptoms, but would likely slow disease progression.
In the other 50 mg/day PwP study, it was found that melatonin helped to improve circadian rhythms which is important for the health of most if not all organs of the body and this could potentially manifest as improved quality of life with aging as well as delayed onset of age related diseases.
What is lacking are studies using higher than 50 mg/day in PwP to try and find the maximum as well as most optimal oral dose for PwP. It is my opinion that oral dosing will be found to not be the most optimal way to get melatonin at useful levels that last long enough to be optimally beneficial for human health. I think the data is already available to show this, but has not yet been pieced together to significantly advance the science of melatonin.
Several forum members have reported taking higher dose melatonin at a level of 50 mg /day or greater. Not everyone can tolerate taking higher dose melatonin, in which case they can get it from natural means such as getting earlier morning or later afternoon sun exposure and through foods high in melatonin or through red light therapy to name a few.
Art
Constipation is an effect, not a cause.
It might keep C/L from working as well, but that's only a symptomatic treatment. C/L doesn't help slow progression.
That doesn't mean it's not annoying. But I still would be careful before I adopted this guy's high sugar/no protein diet!
Obviously most people with constipation never develop PD, but they may be at higher risk of developing the disease. Findings suggest that constipation occurring as early as 20 or more years before the onset of motor symptoms is associated with an increased risk of Parkinson disease.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...
The dysfunction of bowel movements undergoing PD may be contributed by many factors, such as neuro-humoral factors, intestinal microorganisms, intestinal inflammation, drugs, and lifestyle. All these factors appear to contribute to a greater or lesser extent to the development of PD. Constipation may not be the cause, I wouldn't dare to say that so sure, but at least they go hand in hand.
The cause to me was the high fat diet.
The low fat diet helps my c/l work better so that I can function and exercise which helps slow down the progression of parkinson's.
Dr Rogers has 30 years neuroimaging clinical experience. The low fat diet also endorsed by Kempener, Swank, Pritikin, Ornish, Esselstyn, McDougall, Barnard, Kappler, Greger, and lots of science etc.
The low fat diet works for me where as the high fat diet did not. So after considerable personal experience, study and thought I have adopted it.
Also the low fat diet is very cheap where the high fat diet is very expensive which leaves me wondering why and who profits and benefits. By following the money leaves me very suspicious.
I think it is odd to have a diet that requires a vitamin B12 supplement.
I only have a high school degree, so take my opinion for what it is worth.
Doesn't make sense to me neither nor does the high price of the high fat diet compared to the low cost of the low fat diet. So I'll keep taking the b12 with my low fat diet cause it keeps me ''going''.
Since I'm just a poor old fart doing what works for me economically and functionally.