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trying to consolidate b6 facts

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my neuro wants to watch my b6 levels and I am trying to glean what I can about b6 in this website.

please correct me if I am wrong or add to this post as you see fit

1. There are 2 types of b6, pyroxidine and P5P

2. Too much pyroxidine can be toxic and may lead to neuropathy

3. Too much b6, either form , can react poorly with levodopa

4. Too much p5p is not toxic and one cannot OD if taking P5P

I am so confused…

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park_bear

Correcting item 3: B6, in either form, cannot be taken at the same time as C/L because they will inactivate each other.

Item 4: Some people do have trouble with large quantities of P5P, Others, such as myself, are fine with it.

In addition to the foregoing, it is important to be sure you have adequate levels of vitamin B2, riboflavin. Deficiency may cause buildup of pyridoxine.

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Jmellano in reply topark_bear

@park_bear thnx much. PD is such a complicated disease...

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gaga1958 in reply topark_bear

could you again remind how much time in between B6 and C/L to not cancel each other out. Thxs

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park_bear in reply togaga1958

Separate by 2 hours if possible, if not possible separate by a meal.

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Gcf51 in reply topark_bear

Separate by 2 hours if possible, if not possible separate by a meal. I assume 2 hours and a meal is between C/L and P5P. And preferably 2 hours between P5P and next dose of C/L.

Is that for every dose of C/L during the day (in my case 3 times a day).

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park_bear in reply toGcf51

No, only between P5P and C/L - separate by either a meal or 2 hours.

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Caro-1973

You can take 10 to 25 mg per Day without problems. Perhaps 30mg. Without b6, levodopa do not converts in dopamine.

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Esperanto in reply toCaro-1973

In all the test results I have received for my database, there are too high levels of B6 when supplementing with more than 5 mg of P5P or pyridoxine, as well as at high intake of carbidopa/levodopa. While a B6 overdose may be harmless for some individuals, it can be very harmful for others. It can affect both your PD symptoms and the possibility of developing PN, peripheral neuropathy. Taking this risk may not be advisable. It is best to first have your B6 levels tested and continue to monitor them regularly if you are taking higher doses. Otherwise, it would be advisable to stick to a mild B-complex supplement with lower doses of each B-vitamin to meet the recommended 100% daily intake (ADI) for each vitamin. All B-vitamins are interdependent, including the production of dopamine.

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Farooqji

I would strongly recommend NOT to take B6 (any form) unless deficiency is proven in blood test. Remember B6 toxicity is more damaging than B6 deficiency

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Esperanto in reply toFarooqji

Remember B6 toxicity is more damaging than B6 deficiency´ is not true, Farooqi, and even dangerous. A B6 deficiency, which is relatively common in people with Parkinson's is perhaps more serious than an overdose! Strangely enough, it can also lead to peripheral neuropathy, and it can cause your PD medication to be ineffective and worsen your PD condition dramatically. In addition, apart from PD, it is essential for many body functions. I experienced a serious deficit myself after my PD diagnosis, and it's hard to believe that I wouldn't have irreversible severe PN and would likely be symptom-free with a simple low-dose vitamin B-complex pill if my neurologist had continued studying after medical school.

However, your warning about B6 overdose and getting a blood test is also very important. A B6 test is actually a must for everyone with PD, especially for those taking C/L medication!

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Farooqji in reply toEsperanto

My point has been explained in your reply's last paragraph (in bold font)

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cjCardio53 in reply toFarooqji

My B6 is 'insanely" high..all the other "B's' are fine just had bloodwork. I don't drink energy drinks or take supplements with more B6. I am seeing Endocrinologist in December to see WTF. My neuro seems to have blown me off since the blood work came back with the high level of B6. I eat pretty good and don't think it is my diet????

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Esperanto in reply tocjCardio53

Even if you are not intentionally taking B6 supplements, it’s possible that other multivitamins or dietary supplements could contain B6. Additionally, even if you stopped taking these supplements some time ago, the very long half-life of vitamin B6—up to a month—may still result in elevated levels in your body.

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Farooqji in reply tocjCardio53

are you experiencing peripheral neuropathy symptoms?

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cjCardio53 in reply toFarooqji

YES, my toes/hands get cold, numb at times, and the biggest kicker is my tongue burns.That is why she checked my b1, now is blowing me off?

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Farooqji in reply tocjCardio53

You have probably B6 toxicity, as some people get it even from taking small amounts of it. I Recommend to join this FB group for information and guidance m.facebook.com/groups/under...

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cjCardio53

Thanks for the info👍

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