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Hey Gang. I thought I’d post something as I’m aware that a few of you are following my story with a mind to seeing how it fits into your own life? So, turned on Friday, felt awful Saturday (as you know) better Sunday. But yesterday and today I had awful issues with my voice. The programmer had asked me whether it had affected my voice at the time and it really didn’t feel as if it had. Anyway, things were awful the last two days: I was slurring and couldn’t organise my sentences and so I spoke to the DBS nurse this afternoon: she suggested that i take the power down a couple of notches on either side. Worked out so well. I think that the operation damaged it a bit but it’s cool now. Moral of the story: be careful that it’s not turned up too high, as your voice might suffer. This is for StN targets. The GPi is less of a problem.

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pdpatient

Glad to hear, Jeeves. What are the consequences of turning down the frequency or power to help with the voice on other functions?

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jeeves19 in reply to pdpatient

Good question. Nothing really so far luckily. But we’re going to have to cross this bridge one day eh? 😵‍💫

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Boscoejean

good to hear things could get corrected

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jeffmayer

Still no regrets I assume

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jeeves19 in reply to jeffmayer

Nope

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jeffmayer in reply to jeeves19

I must say it's not as daunting as before

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Michel0220

Thank for the updates Adam. Sounds encouraging!

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JeanieBeanie

My husband had his settings reduced in July after almost 18 years. If too high his voice and falling are affected. He switches it off entirely to walk better when 'on' but cannot manage without it when 'off'. His main problem is tremor.

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jeeves19

That’s interesting Jeanie. Had his settings reduced after 18? Goodness. Yeah. I was thinking the same as hubby but wondered if it was good to keep moving it up and down? What a drag this voice aspect is eh? I wish it was made more apparent then I think I might have argued for GPi more forcefully.

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limcheeese22

how many volt of difference mind sharing?

medtronic?

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jeeves19

Medtronic 1.3 down to 1.1 and 2.5 down to 2.3

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Susan80 in reply to jeeves19

Hi Jeeves my husband age 66 just had DBS done on September 19 and gets turned on tomorrow with Medtronic. This is his second rodeo. He had DBS in April 2021 with Boston Scientific battery. He kept getting infections in the chest and had several batteries taken out and put back in and finally they took everything out in December 2022. So we are trying this journey again because we know it worked so well the first time when he wasn’t getting infections they decided this time to put the battery deeper in the chest where there is better blood flow . We are praying for a good outcome this time because this really does work. He did have some issues with some balance last time and he did have to turn it down. But he also had to turn it up when the tremors were worse but overall he was very happy with the outcome, the few months that he did have it. Good luck with your journey! Keep us posted.

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jeeves19 in reply to Susan80

Susan. May I direct you to my answer to Ron below which is in essence the same response as I’d have written for yourself?

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RonB1

Can you share what improvements you are experiencing?

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jeeves19 in reply to RonB1

Having said Nope to Jeff above, I seem to be experiencing as many troubles as benefits Ron. Main result is dystonia gone. So too is bradykinesia. Lower meds mean no dyskinesia. However, I appear to have unacceptably altered speech when I achieve t these. In addition I suspect that I’ve developed an allergy to the leads as I have itchy eyes, palate of my mouth roof is often itchy etc. Could be a coincidence but lead placement is the only thing I’ve had new on the last month.

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RonB1 in reply to jeeves19

It sounds like you need some fine tuning and hope you then find the perfect balance of symptom control. Here in Canada, a news anchor Harry Forestall had DBS with excellent results. Perhaps you can learn from his experience. You will be fine.

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jeeves19 in reply to RonB1

But thanks for your concern.

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bassofspades in reply to jeeves19

Bradykinesia is gone? Wow! You must be shredding on your guitar!

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jeeves19 in reply to bassofspades

Well it’s gone but my coordination between the two hands ain’t what it once was. But I was never a shredder actually Bass. More of a feel man?

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bassofspades in reply to jeeves19

I feel ya, man! Lol i mean, I know what you mean! I'm just rooting for you, I want to see you succeed!

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jeeves19 in reply to bassofspades

😂 Me too. I’ve got a 2nd programming session on the 6 November. Im going to whinge a fair bit and hopefully they’ll get it right this time!

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Doohat in reply to jeeves19

It could be nonallergic rhinitis after receiving supplemental oxygen during deep sedation. That's what happened to me after having a colonoscopy. See ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl....

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jeeves19

I have to say Ron. That I always believed that I was a GPi candidate rather than an STN. I’m slow and have no tremor or dyskinesia really. But hey, what do I know matey?

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gingerj

Hi Jeeves, its good that you have the ability to tweek the settings on DBS. When you dropped the power slightly did you feel any different other than improving your speech?How's the Bradykinesia, has that improved?

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jeeves19 in reply to gingerj

No. It’s a live issue Ginge., Turing it down has repurcussions for the whole body unfortunately. So I’m not a happy bunny currently.

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gingerj in reply to jeeves19

When you say you're not happy. Do you regret having the DBS or are you thinking it will come right with the necessary tweaks?

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jeeves19 in reply to gingerj

Yes the latter. It will come good eventually.

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gingerj

Oh, I've just read through your replies to everyone. It sounds like your speech is still an issue. Regarding the roof of your mouth and itchy eyes, have / can you switch the DbS off. It could be the signal the wires emit rather than the wires themselves.

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jeeves19

I couldn’t switch it off Ginge. I’d be all over the place. I take your point though and will mention it to the programmers

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1rocketman

My husband had DBS a year ago. A weaker voice had always been an issue, but voice therapy has helped. Two weeks ago, he found himself having difficulty speaking and issues with swallowing. I was sure it was progression. We spoke to his DBS technician who asked us to check what level he set his DBS hand controlled device. Sure enough, and unbeknownst to me, he cranked the left and right side of his DBS controller from 3.2 to 3.7. Essentially, he turned it up so high, he knocked his voice out and swallowing became an issue. We have since lowered it back to 3.2, and he's back to "normal" -- whatever can be considered normal any more, but his speech is back and he can swallow again.

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jeeves19

I have speech issues at 2.4 and 1.3

Yikes!

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gingerj

Hi Jeeves, have you had any improvement in your speech and general parkinsons symptoms in the last week? I've been reading about the two target areas for Dbs. STN and Gpi. Seems speech and gait are common problems with STN. Less so with Gpi. Did you get to discuss this prior to the surgery or was Gpi not an option?

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jeeves19 in reply to gingerj

Hi Ginge. I argued that the GPi was the place to put the leads but my surgeon conferred with my neurologist and dbs programmer and they all thought that the STN was the place. Naturally I kowtowed thinking that 3 against 1 was fair enough. But I’m still waiting for serious benefits: true, dystonia has gone but I can’t really speak well any more and balance has been disturbed. Also, my energy levels are quite low.

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gingerj in reply to jeeves19

Hopefully they'll find a nice balance when you go again in November.

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gingerj in reply to jeeves19

Hi Jeeves. Just wondering if anything has improved with your DBS situation. I have an appointment with my neurologist tomorrow and hope to discuss STN vs GPI and whether I have a choice. Cheers

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jeeves19 in reply to gingerj

Yep. For some reason my voice seems to have returned for the last couple of days. I have no idea why. Go for it Ginge. It’s worth it just to be able to turn over in bed and to get out of the bath without help!

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gingerj in reply to jeeves19

Thanks, I was beginning to think that it would be too much of a risk.

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jeeves19

*ucking hope so mate.

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jeeves19

You’ll reach the point I suspect that the disease will become too much to cope with. DBS will reward you with much needed relief.

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