Increasing Exercise endurance

[Farooqji]

I have noticed dramatic increase in exercise endurance after starting following three herbs

1. Shilajit

2. Tribulus

3. Musli safed

Have discontinued all other supplements for the last 2 months

[Bolt_Upright]

Interesting stuff Farooqji. It would be great if you could join one of Marc's weekend Zoom calls to go into more detail.

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[Farooqji in reply to Bolt_Upright]

will try to attend but the difficulty in joining is due due the difference in time zones

[jeffmayer]

Could it be that your just getting fitter

[Farooqji in reply to jeffmayer]

May be, but I have been using these herbs for the last 2 months, therefore I attribute the benefit to it

[LeharLover62]

Great! How much are you taking, and how long before you noticed an effect?

Also curious why you selected these herbs…and which ones you stopped.

[Farooqji in reply to LeharLover62]

These herbs were selected based on some known references ( people who use it, although they were not PWP but they used it for the muscles strength) and a lot of available literature. Also the amazone reviews. Shilajit dose 400 mg daily. Raw tribulus extract 4 ~ 5 grams a day and musli safed 4 ~ 5 grams a day

[Tribselyov]

never discount the value of placebo

A net 3% gain

[Farooqji in reply to Tribselyov]

100% actual effect no placebo.

[Tribselyov in reply to Tribselyov]

typo 35% net

[rebtar]

it looks like all three increase testosterone.

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/327...

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

from what i understand this could help increase muscle mass. Endurance also?

Why did you discontinue all other supplements?

[Farooqji in reply to rebtar]

I discontinued all other supplements for apparently getting no benefit from them. Also to check the effect of these three herbs in isolation

[LAJ12345 in reply to Farooqji]

maybe you feel better due to stopping one of the others that had been making you feel worse! Did you leave a gap of time in the middle?

[Farooqji in reply to LAJ12345]

May be, but I am inclined to attribute it to the initiation of these herbs

[kaypeeoh]

What tells you that your endurance has improved? Resting heart rate?

[Farooqji in reply to kaypeeoh]

I could run only 3 km continuously before. Now my continuous run has increased to 5 km. Same is for the elliptical trainer which I could burn only 350 calories in a single session which has increased to 500 calories now

[LAJ12345]

hubby took shilajit a while back for a while. I’m not sure of the effect on him. I have some in the cupboard so could give it another go although he is plodding along ok at the moment.

Did you every try horny goat weed for Icariin? If it is testosterone helping this might also be good. It seemed to reduce apathy in hubby a while back when he took it but I think it slightly increased the anxious feeling.

also rhodiola rosea seems to help

[Farooqji in reply to LAJ12345]

No I have not tried horney goat weed as yet. Testosterone deficiency is common in PD patients and very much treatable. May be the reason for improvement in symptoms and increase in energy level is due to this aspect in my case. One approach to battle this horrible disease is to treat it symptom by symptom. For example for muscle weakness one can choose the supplements and herbs that improve the muscle mass and strength. Similarly the other symptoms (constipation, sleep apnea, brain focus etc) when treated in isolation, cause the overall symptoms relief.

[Fumaniron]

I’ve taken tribulus off and on pre-exercise for over a decade. Certainly gave me energy