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Epigenetic Code, Parkinson's, and QiGong

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park_bear, you should like this. Why should QiGong work to heal PD?

I was just watching a video crimsonclover shared with me, and watch at about 28:20 when they start talking about epigenetic code. Is there a clue in there?

It seems like they are saying our epigenetic code for a-synuclein gets over expressed in a bad way, and that we can change the epigenetic code for a-synuclein in a good way with thought (and exercise and experiences)

youtu.be/gIxP8XNk4pA?t=1697

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Qigong is essentially a spiritual practice. My background is physics and engineering. If we are going to try to apply science to spirituality, the very first question we have to answer is how is it by mere intention we can lift a finger, or move any other part of our body (Parkinson's motor impairment notwithstanding).

Pure scientific materialism does not have a satisfactory answer – if it all reduces to the activity of neurons, free will disappears. Being in a body would be like being an observer in a meat robot.

So we must resort to what is known as dualism – the idea that consciousness is separate from the physical body. If so, there must be a tight binding, because brain damage can interfere with consciousness. Be that as it may, how would a nonphysical consciousness interact with the brain to control a physical body? Perhaps dark matter has something to do with it, considering the dark matter and dark energy make up 95 percent of the matter – energy of the universe. Or not.

So we do not even have a satisfactory theory of mind-body interaction, which puts us a very long way from understanding how spiritual healing might work.

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Bolt_Upright in reply to park_bear

Love your post. They are saying, kind of saying, we can alter our genes. Not controlled alterations, but good things can alter them for good. I think that might relate to the paper on the guy who they think actually healed his PD with QiGong (if that was the cause of the cure).

So park_bear, I like dualism. Are you one who believes the brain is a filter through which the spirit expresses itself? So brain damage is not altering the ... whatever we are, but is just making it harder for our whatever we are to communicate with this physical world? I like to believe this.

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Gioc in reply to Bolt_Upright

welcome to terra incognita, good luck, you will need it!

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Bolt_Upright in reply to Gioc

Nice! Terra incognita or terra ignota is a term used in cartography for regions that have not been mapped or documented. The expression is believed to be first seen in Ptolemy's Geography c. 150. The term was reintroduced in the 15th century from the rediscovery of Ptolemy's work during the Age of Discovery.

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Gioc in reply to Bolt_Upright

Yes👍

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Gioc in reply to Bolt_Upright

Greetings From Italy (Now)

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Somic67 in reply to Gioc

i guess it is a lake in the north of Italy... ;)

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Resano in reply to Bolt_Upright

All is One. Beware of dualism if you have PD: "This primordial duality in unity has been described in beautiful terms in the hindu interplay between Siva the first observer and Sakti the primordial energy and manifestation." (Dr Jeanmonod, Focussed Ultrasound Therapy neurosurgeon)

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park_bear in reply to Bolt_Upright

As I understand it, cells commonly turn genes off and on all the time via methylation and demethylation.

Regarding the brain, I would say something like connection instead of filter, but otherwise I agree with your statement.

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Gioc in reply to park_bear

Physicists have a big unsolved problem with an absolute 0 (zero) with creative ability. A point of view external to the physical universe from which the physical universe itself extends, created to be experienced or seen.😊

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"Qigong is essentially a spiritual practice."

Qigong is a method of working with the energy of your 'life force.'

To say that it is essentially a spiritual practice is similar to someone that cannot believe/understand that electricity is real. (I'm struggling to come up with a good analogy; I hope this one works, and that it doesn't come off as being offensive)

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Yes that is offensive. My point in expressing it that way is to distinguish it from a set of physical exercises which some people mistake it for.

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I am sorry that you are offended by my attempt at communicating an idea to you. I sincerely did the best that I could.

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I do think you added value too crimsonclover, in taking Qigong past spiritual.

I just learned of the book "Unseen Realm" today amazon.com/Unseen-Realm-Rec... (examines the ancient context of Scripture, explaining how its supernatural worldview can help us grow in our understanding of God).

It makes me want to say "Qigong is essentially a supernatural practice". At least I hope it is. I am making an attempt to learn all about Qigong.

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That is interesting. I would say that "Qigong is essentially an energy practice."

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That is a good distinction park_bear. Especially considering if you go to YouTube and search Qigong you find a lot of videos making it look like Tia-Chi exercises.

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Taiji is qigong. It is the marital arts form though -- all qigong is not taiji, but all taiji is qigong. There too, many people only see it as an exercise routine. I'm not being critical; simply making an observation.

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Qigong is not mere Placebo. It is Massage+Movement+Meditation + the most important thing: Breathing with the evidence-based end result grandly summarised in this medical database:

qigonginstitute.org/abstracts

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AaronS

Bloody hell this is getting complicated, I believe the act of Qigong brings the parasympathetic nervous system into play, which is the rest/recovery system. PD is essentially a buggered up fight or flight reaction /sympathetic nervous system problem. Qigong is beneficial because it prompts the body out of the shaking and rigidity and pain and brings it Into a state of recovery and rest and repair.

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