My dad is high in heavy metals which may be the root cause of pd. A N.D has refered him for EDTA chelation..
I'm wondering about the efficiency and safety of using MMS (chlorine dioxide) for a heavy metal detox ?
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EDTA chelation for pd
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This is not new . Welders PD is treatable to some degree. If you are not going to trust your doctor ?
Thankyou gym bag. Yes dad welded a lot. Manganism (welders disease). I wondered about P amino salicylic acid to reverse this? Brake cleaner is nasty! ND says he has holes in his Mylan sheath.
What to do ?
EDTA , MMS,
Thanku gym bag. Interesting link. Yes he was self employed
MMS (chlorine dioxide)
NO! This is both useless and dangerous. If you do not have the discernment to understand this stick to your doctor's advice!
I've heard one favourable report.Is it not true that Jim humble cured 20 000 people of malaria with chlorine dioxide. I knew a biochemist that was using it on cancer patients.
And I have talked to a lady naturapath/herbalist that cured her son of a kidney infection using MMS (chlorine dioxide) which is soooooo NOT chlorine.
The interview by Jim humble is very interesting
It is NOT true. Consider my prior comment repeated with additional emphasis.
Thankyou Park bear. Do you think it's not true that he cured malaria?I saw a herbalist lady take this for klebsiella pneumoniae.
How do you know it's not true? How do you know it's dangerous.?
I have been told it's cheaper. More efficient . To cleanse the body of toxic metals. Which if dr olree is correct. Then aluminium is the culprit for dads pd diagnosis.
Thankyou for reply Park bear. Did you already know about MMS. Cos on the surface it's warned against. But digging deeper. ....
This substance is so reactive it immediately damages the lining of the GI tract, and is spent, before it has the opportunity to do anything else. See also:
justice.gov/opa/pr/seller-m...
factcheck.org/2020/02/fake-...
abcnews.go.com/Health/fring...
I will spend no more time on this matter.
You may also like to consider Liquid Zeolite DHQ. It is reasonably inexpensive and removed the heavy metals from my body a decade ago. I had tests done every 3 months while taking it and the clean-out was excellent.
Thanks Getz and Park bear. I will look into this ?
Look into toxaprevent. innerstrengthnutrition.co.n...
Thanks laj. A ND gave dad toxa preyear ago and he never took. Then one year ago another herb Nd lady said to take but other Nat. Said not now. Thanks. I will read what you sent me. We have a full box of toxa prevent here. Three years old. Does it go out of date. I was not home and he went to guy and bought this.But to busy with work to follow advice.
He's getting better.
I will look at the link. Thankyou.
It is a mineral so I wouldn’t think it would go off.
MMS is extremely dangerous. It is warned against vociferously by many government toxic substance agencies, including the FDA in the United States and the equivalent government agency in the uk, as well as several other agencies a various states in the US. Of particular risk is the risk of immediate shutdown of kidneys. This is a very dangerous substance, and is yes very so much like chlorine bleach. Unless you are somehow angling for an early inheritance, I suggest you refrain. Does your father know he has placed his life in the hands of a nutter? Beware of psychopathic Scientologists.
No I was just wondering. My dad goes to his acupuncturist. We had hair analysis. I'm giving him his nutritional supplements. Digestion support. Pro biotics.I've seen a health pro. Take this MMS.
I'm not a nutter. They said my dad would not walk or talk in six months.
He's walking and talking.
Doing up buttons better.
That's the co q 10.
I've really tried to get educated and it's not easy being active for someone. Broken sleep. Making sure he does not dehydrate.
I only asked about something.
Last week a ND told me he has heard that it really helped one of his patients.but he refered us to dr for chelation.
In fact dads Nd says she cured her son of a kidney infection with MMS.
I thankyou all for your input.
And I will try to give my dad as long and as good a quality of life that I can.
That's a relief. Do as much with a doctor as you can and of course part of that is to ask for the doctors to reach out to as many other doctors as they can for whatever chelation therapy could be tried, but responsibly as can be done!
And I will follow your advice and take dad to integrative medicine clinic and dr can talk to Nd. And something about nac to help kidneys. While it's going on. I don't pretend to understand. But we have seen iridoligist. Biochemist.dr.nueroligist (many) and many ND. He's had hair testing and live blood testing. His MRI with one dr said it's not idiopathic pd.But I come home and he is still being treated for this. But he is better than two years ago. Thanks for your help people.
Veg,
Even though I agree with the above comments that MMS is not to be taken, if your dad is better off than he was 2 years ago, he's lucky to have you and you're doing something right.
Very, very few nutters have that much success. 
Thanks MB,that's funny. I am fully nuts some times. Sleep helps hey. The info a lady posted on melatonin covid and Parkinson's (link) interesting read. We're trying to heal his gut. Slippery elm. Aloe vera powder.etc
I'm following advice from who I think are knowledgeable.thanks for encouragement.
In the very last study I supplied below, after reading it through a couple of times, I think you want to look more closely at reference number 49. Also I think ask Sharon crane what she can say about whether there are maybe anyways to rejuvenate mitochondrial functioning. If so, a question arising might just be, very interestingly, whether B1 might make some difference, only because I see that mitochondria might be somehow involved and one thing that mitochondria need are b1. This may be entirely off base, but it's so happens that Dr Costantini, very well known to long-term members of this website was a big proponent of using very large doses of b1 to help treat parkinsonism symptoms and Parkinson's symptoms. I do not yet understand the connection with astrocytes, except that astrocytes are needed to help maintain and repair the same neurons involved in Parkinson's destruction. If there were some way to restore functioning of astrocytes, then perhaps there is some prospective treatment in the future, IF astrocyte function can be restored. You see astrocytes are involved in repairing damage from reactive oxygen species, IE free radicals, that punch holes in neurons, sometimes as a result of immune system attacking neurons. Astrocytes are somehow involved in keeping up the system that either reduces or fights off some of those reactive oxygen species, and perhaps some of those reactive oxygen species are produced by the immune system. There is a mention of astrocytes, and mitochondria so it leads to a question of whether there might be some way to restore some of that astrocyte functioning, or if it is indeed too late. But I do know that some things stripped by one out of mitochondria and maybe that matters. Mitochondria are involved in creation of energy processing, and that is not quite the same thing as the immune system interrupting free radicals and reactive oxygen species from damaging your neurons so it is pretty creative to think that maybe these all might be involved somehow. But reference 49 tells me there may be somebody with experience who thinks maybe be one might make a difference, just because of the work of Dr costantini with Parkinson's and parkinsonism. Although Dr c has passed on, a lot of information has accumulated here about b1, largely from his efforts to treat people before he died and several of them were involved here at this website in his use of b1. Some of that material is here on the website still.
Thankyou. I will try to find if any side effect from big dose. And find out w hat I can. We have ALLITHIAMINE. Watched EO nutrition on you tube. Most of it over my head. A big thankyou Marion for your time, knowledge and effort to help guide me. Blessings
The page did not come up Marion. For reference 49. Hope you are well. Your help is priceless.
Neuromythology of Manganism
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...
Loss of mitochondrial complex I activity potentiates dopamine neuron death induced by microtubule dysfunction in a Parkinson’s disease model
I know your dad has been through a lot, as have you. I also know it's hard to write all the necessary info in one of these " threads" but I am picking up on the MRI. Having an MRI does not deny or confirm PD. It is to show if any other neuro findings show up but it doesn't show PD. A good, thorough physical exam by a Neurologist or Movement Disorder Dr, and a Datscan test are the best ways to diagnosis PD with accuracy. Just to pass on this tidbit for you.
And idiopathic doesn't rule out other types of Parkinsonism.
Take good care and all the best to your dad.
Thankyou very much husband supporter
Hello I tried EDTA it was very helpful in reducing my lead levels substantially but no symptomatic improvements I did IV treatment
Thanks big.
You might want to look up nac, n-acetyl-cysteine. It seems that the research says parkinsonism and manganism have a lot in common and maybe some of the things for parkisonism may help with symtoms while waiting for other things you try to pull out some more of the metal.
Thanks Marion. I tried nac . It seems to much was worse walk. But small doses ok. Acetyl l carnitine and r-ala seem to help. We might get some more restore gold. I wonder if the capsules contain what they say. Has anyone tried restore gold ? Thanks.
Vegegardner, can you outline some of your research of what element(s) that the Mn displaces in the human body ?
ie. in a water softener the "Hard" part of Hard water from the tap, is replaced by taking things like Mn with NA from the NaCl (SALT).
I do not know anything about your fathers disease, but I know a small bit of chemistry and ion transfer in waster softeners / conditioners. you might get some Ah Ha's.
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Best of Luck.
Im not knowledgeable about this.I will look for info on co q 10.
Thankyou for input. Has anyone heard of or used PAS for manganism.? Cheers sapeye.
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