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The Art of Recovering

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Without recovering, exercise is counter productive.

For the past three years I have put my time and effort in the gym. Six days per week x 90 minutes per.

I must device a program that includes recovering. I have covered the physical and now it is time for recovering.

Does anyone have one of these?

Fredzu

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Yes, I have a recovering program. All better now thanks to Doc. Antonio Costantini and thiamine hcl….

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Berylhorsey1 in reply to

Me too. A wonderful man

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Kia17

Hi Fredzu

Please can you elaborate the type of exercise you were doing and intensity as well as the results?

Thank you

Kia

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Cons10s

I completely recovered from anxiety. I didn’t have it prior to PD and I don’t have it now.

It was December and my husband came home with a bottle of 3:1 tincture. Anxiety had been building for months and I was considering going on meds. With the first dropper full I immediately felt a sense of calmness and new I was on to something. It took 10 months and then the following Christmas I realized I was already titrating off the tincture naturally.

I’m positive I’ve re-wired my brain and my anxiety is gone for good.

Eliminating anxiety and or depression are said to be the first step in the process of healing.

Constance

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MBAnderson in reply toCons10s

Constance, please tell me what brand, where did you buy it?

Thanks.

Marc

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Cons10s in reply toMBAnderson

I started with treatwellhealth brand but it’s become more difficult to find at SF dispensary’s so now I have a couple of brands THC/CBD. I only use it now a couple days a week, just because I believe it may have further healing benefits. During the first year I used a dropper 3/4 full 3 times daily. I had tried the 20:1 but found it too light for me. The 1:1 is good at bedtime. The 3:1 was best for the day time.

Also cleared my dermatitis up in 5 days with oral use.

Your local dispensary can advise you of best current brands on the market.

Constance

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KERRINGTON in reply toCons10s

Can you tell me what the tincture consists of ? Thanks

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Cons10s in reply toKERRINGTON

THC/CBD, see above for more info

KERRINGTON profile image
KERRINGTON in reply toCons10s

I can't get it in NJ.

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Despe in reply toKERRINGTON

Neither can't I. :(

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MBAnderson in reply toCons10s

Forgive my ignorance but THC/CBD isn't the brand or is it? (I couldn't find a product by that name.)

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Toogood in reply toCons10s

Can you tell what brand it is please....

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JeansTsShades in reply toCons10s

Are you talking about THC:CBD?

Fredzu profile image
Fredzu

I am so pleased. A huge Victory.

Is it like...Exercise/Recovery?

Fredzu

KERRINGTON profile image
KERRINGTON

So, what did intense exercise do for you ?

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Farooqji

please be brief and to the point

Fredzu profile image
Fredzu

Good question. I got stronger, confident

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JohnPepper

Hi Fredzu. I did gym for 90 minutes every day, six days a week for two years immediately after diagnosis. I had been doing 60 minutes a day for the previous 22 years. My symptoms got WORSE during those two years so I stopped going to the gym and started to do the fast walking EVERY SECOND DAY. I started the walking at 20 minutes and added five minutes every second week until I got to one hour, which was four months later.

Guess what? My performance improved after four months from over 10.5 minutes to under 9 minutes per kilometre.

The fact is: I was doing TOO MUCH EXERCISE and I was not allowing my muscles to recover.

I have never looked back. I have not needed any medication since 2002.

Not all exercise produces GDNF, but fast walking does. GDNF repairs the damaged brain cells and that gives us more dopamine and we get better. We have our own built-in repair kit. START USING IT!

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jeffmayer in reply toJohnPepper

How does walking differ from cycling

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MBAnderson in reply tojeffmayer

Either fast walking or cycling can burn more calories per mile than the other depending upon how vigorous the effort.

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JohnPepper in reply toMBAnderson

It is also difficult to go flat out on a bicycle for one hour, it could be too dangerous!

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jeffmayer in reply toJohnPepper

Sorry I don't agree I can hold an average speed of 18 mph for more than an hour and also cycling releases a lot of endorphins which can only be a good thing

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JohnPepper in reply tojeffmayer

Hi Jeff. Endorphins are good for us, but endorphins don't do anything for Pd. I am sure you have heard of 'Fight or Flight'. Fast walking is not normal, in fact it is very abnormal and it creates this Fight or Flight effect and the brain produces GDNF (Glial Derived neurotrophic factor). Glial cells are the cells destroyd by Pd and neurotrphc means 'Nerve Repair' or Nerve Replacement'. So we have our own repair kit in the brain and it gets activated by fast walking.

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jeffmayer in reply toJohnPepper

Yes walking is good for you I have two Irish setters I have also climbed 150 Lakeland peaks so I talk from experience

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JohnPepper in reply tojeffmayer

Hi Jeff. I can be a pain i the butt. It is not just walking, it is maintaining the walking speed, uninterrupted for one hour every second day that is important. Tell me to get lost, I wouldn't blame you

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jeffmayer in reply toJohnPepper

I would never do that as I am sure we will all agree any advice is invaluable to slow down this horrible condition I admit I have always been a very keen cyclist and hillwalker so I am a bit biased towards cycling the basics to me are that you have to keep positive and keep fighting any negative thoughts could manifest themselves in different ways so keep fighting and positive and enjoy each day

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JohnPepper in reply tojeffmayer

Agreed

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JohnPepper in reply tojeffmayer

Cycling is not weight-bearing and does not have the same effect as fast walking.

Walking fast is not natural. If we are in a hurry we would run or jog, which is much easier. When the brain thinks we are in trouble (Fight or Flight) it produces GDNF, which repairs the damaged brain cells. I don't think that cycling does that.

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bjmettler

I exercise for several hours every day - walking, tennis, boxing, gardening, biking. Last week I had to quit because of extreme pain in my elbow and hip. After 2 days of rest, I'm ready to get back into it, but will try to go easier.

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JohnPepper in reply tobjmettler

Hi bjmettler. Too much exercise can be worse than too little. Our muscles need time to recover from high intensity exercise. Fast walking for one hour, three times a week is the best way of dealing with Pd. I can't make anybody else do fast walking but what have you got to lose by doing it?

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bjmettler in reply toJohnPepper

I am a fan of fast walking - and so is my dog. I tend to go sideways if I walk slowly (communion line at Mass!). Now, if only my husband with his own set of aches and pains could keep up with us.

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JohnPepper in reply tobjmettler

He might even beat us!

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Fredzu

Words like “Recover, Easier, Rest” will dominate the scene. Maybe they will replace Pain.

Fredzu

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JohnPepper in reply toFredzu

I don't quite follow you. How can you replace pain? Do you mean overcome pain? After strenuous exercise, your body does need to rest, in order to recover. Muscles have to have energy in order to function. If they are unable to get that energy from reserve fat they get it from the muscle itself. That makes the muscle weaker and smaller.

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Fredzu

Hi John,

Some of us cannot walk fast. I have severe pain in my lower back, pain in the back of my thigh and pain of the back of the back of my neck.

Would love to walk fast.

Recombinant allows for this exercise.

Fredzu

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