Puppet on a string

[Madzy]

If I move my hands slowly just as if there is a string attached to it , just as if I am a puppet on a string, my tremor disappears nearly completely. My chi kong teacher told me to do so. Is there anybody who recognizes this?

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not my results

[lempa_nik]

Ref: medscape.com/viewarticle/77...

"First, the most common or classical Parkinson's disease tremor is defined as a resting tremor, or rest and postural/kinetic tremor with the same frequency. This tremor is inhibited during movement . . . "

Any deliberate motion--slow or fast--of the affected limb tends to suppress the resting tremor. It has nothing to do specifically with "mysterious potencies" of oriental exercises such as Hatha Yoga , or Chi Kong. Deliberate motion can sometimes give temporary relief that is very dramatic and astonishing to see. This is illustrated by some PwPs with marked motor symptoms who, for example, can ride a bicycle or ice skate (e.g.,Michael J. Fox) with great ease and fluidity.

[paddyfields in reply to lempa_nik]

Did anyone say this?I " It has nothing to do specifically with "mysterious potencies" of oriental exercises such as Hatha Yoga , or Chi Kong"

[lempa_nik in reply to paddyfields]

Hi Paddyfields, No one actually alluded to the woo-woo aura of oriental practices, but, I took the liberty of making a preemptive strike against a perceived undertone. And don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Tai Chi, Chi Gong, Ayurveda, etcetera.

[Madzy in reply to paddyfields]

I share an experience tried to share this. perhaps it does not work for you. it works for me . I was just curious if other people have the same experience

[Madzy in reply to lempa_nik]

My experience is that my tremor does not disappear with all movements only with very specific movements. when i try to sway my arm while walking it is very often impossible to do that without trembling wildly

I only wanted to share an experience. I hope that we stay open minded towards eachother. I ride a lot on my trike and the tremor does not disappear.

[lempa_nik in reply to Madzy]

Thanks Madzy, your clarification is appreciated. I jumped in with both feet and landed on my behind. That's a good reminder for me that one who generalizes about PD often risks the laughter of the gods.

[Hidden in reply to Madzy]

I fast walk 3 miles every other day. The route includes gentle hills............and the tremor does not disappear.

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yes, I can stop tremors while doing this, but who wants to be a puppet all day? LOL

I also stop them with the wrist bend back as far as it will go, I learned this from MIng Gu of the Chicenter.com in his LCUPCD method, its a relief from the rest of the Qi Gong.

are you getting any results from Qi Gong?

[Madzy in reply to Hidden]

the only thing I wanted to do is sharing an experience nothing more nothing less. Yes I tried LCUPCD and I donot loose hope that I can do that again when I can do it without getting terrible backpain. I am still recovering from a hip operation because my left leg was too short. I am a little shocked from all woo woo comments. And yes what happens when you do the puppet on a string a few hours a day just like Bianca Molle did her LCUPCD?

[Hidden in reply to Madzy]

I just had a consult with her recently, her only comment to every question was just do it, its difficult for me to do 3x/day

[gcorrell]

I have this experience with Tai Chi.

[charsie]

That is why they are call "AT REST" Tremors. Note: 30% of people with PD don't get tremors.

When you are not directing you hand to do something specific, that is 'At Rest' and it can have a mind of it's own. It may decide to tremor.

Conversely, when you are telling it to 'pick-up' a glass of water or move along a specific path for the chi kong.... it doesn't have a tremor component.

Note to you and anyone reading this: IF you would like a free copy of my latest P D Symptoms List....e-mail me at: [e-mail]

Charsie

[paddyfields]

Hi Charsie,

The inability to pick up a teacup and saucer used to be the "teacup" test for PD.

I have to steady my right hand with my left for more than one intentional movement. How does this fit with your description? By the way the use of capital letters is generally interpreted as shouting .

[Hikoi]

The tremor focus of this post is interesting. Resting tremor is certainly a central feature of PD being one of the most common motor symptoms of Parkinson‘s disease, a so called Cardinal symptom. The others are slowness in performing movements (bradykinesia), stiffness of muscles (rigidity),and balance problems (postural instability), and are used as the diagnosis symptoms.

But tremor is so complex with 30% of people who haven't got a noticeably tremor though I think they seem to get a mild one over time. Now I am noticing my tremor is more pervasive and I can no longer hold a cup steady like I could when first diagnosed but it goes when I move my hands slowly. Is this because the intentional movement is the actual movement to pick up the cup and I don't shake then, but carrying a teacup means no movement as I have to hold it in one position? I don't know. I do know that un medicated the tremor is always there at rest.