Getting the flu makes it worse?

[zawy]

I asked before, but didn't get any confirmation. When you get the flu, does it seem to be more "devastating" than in other people?

[wifeofparky]

Anyone who gets the flu is very ill. I do not have PD and when I came down with the flu I felt like I had been hit by a truck. I could barely get out of bed. Many people get a severe virus that they attribute to the flu but with true influenza you are "sick".

[Ramuu]

Yes , you are right. Flu medication interfere with PD medication , some time PD medication become totally ineffective or reduces ON times, which makes it devastating.

[cabbagecottage]

can't wait to have our flu jab , So far it's been brilliant for me .

Flu is dreadful , it's the only time when I have felt I wanted to die . You cannot get out of bed , or if you so you soon have to get back in. Again .

even the smallest upset affects Parkinsons , At least that's what I find with my husband

[wifeofparky in reply to cabbagecottage]

I am able to function when sick and ended up taking care of everyone else besides but when I got the flu, it scared my husband and he ended up calling the doctor and making me go in. Like you say, I wanted to die and only got out of bed to crawl to the bathroom and back.

[swva]

How many of you get the flu shot?

[wifeofparky in reply to swva]

I get my shot every year. The one time I came down with the flu, I was scheduled to get the shot that day. Haven't missed a dose since. I worked in a doctor's office for 6 years and was exposed to flu patients and other upper respiratory infections on a daily basis. I believe my yearly shots helped my immune system and I rarely was sick.

[bartogirl in reply to swva]

Both myself and hubby who as PD, It could be deadly for him as could any infection, I have an autoimmune disease called APS and cannot afford to get anything,

[Pelley]

wifeofparky said it all.....Many people get something they attribute to the "flu".

I personally haven't had a flu shot for more years than I can count. I lie thru my teeth to my neuro. "Yup." "already took care of that doc." "Walgreen's did it."

Maybe many will disagree with me but there are so many mutations of any virus the odds of the shot being useful are about as much as a needle in a haystack.

Besides that the FDA can hurry up and pass those inoculations like a few years ago "swine flu" in a few months but the wheels move much slower for any break thru for PD or the like.

There generations from now we will undoubtedly realize the reason kids are born with excessive ADD or peanut allergies etc.

Western medicine has a pill or serum or scalpel to fix everything.

I personally believe "less is more".

My new mission statement is

"I want to die YOUNG,........ as OLD as I can!"

[FMundo in reply to Pelley]

I totally disagree with everything you said. Flu shots are very effective in preventing flu, everyone who has PD should be taking them, and there is no established connection between the allergies you mention and the shots.

[zawy in reply to FMundo]

As of 2010 a review of all the studies did not show any benefit of the flu shot in the elderly:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/201...

Some studies financed by the vaccine companies show a small or modest benefit, often not statistically significant.

I used to get the flu all the time but then started taking 2000 IU vitamin D and it was greatly reduced. And if anyone shows signs in the house, I take 4 of these 3 times a day and come out better than my wife and children when the opposite used to be the case. One of these for the children greatly relieves their symptoms for about 4 hours, a little bit better than the zinc lozenges. I never had much success with massive amounts of vitamin D.

In short, adults should make sure they are getting zinc and vitamin D. These two also happened to reduce the incidence of PD and it is theorized by some that viruses in the nose are the initial cause of some cases of PD.

Flu shots contain mercury. Some shots for children have been claimed to have had the mercury removed, but I never can confirm this is true directly from the labels or from the manufacturers. Three of the shots every child is required to take by law in order to attend public school are for diseases that have not existed in the western world for 2 or 3 decades. You can bet a lot of money was spent to get states to pass these laws.

Somewhere, somehow, the medical community and government are failing miserably. There are 3 children within a block of my house with autism. Two are severe. My children are not allowed to take any kind of nuts to school because of other children with allergies, and the school refuses to prepare eggs because of allergies. They'll make sausage though, and provide typical sodas that contain 1/10 of a pound (45 grams) of sugar in the form of high fructose corn syrup. 1/10 of a pound! 11 teaspoons, 1/5 of a cup.

Like the previous poster pelley, I am not saying the shots cause autism or allergies. It's just that those things come to mind. Maybe pesticide or herbicide exposure from food should be coming to our particular minds since those increase incidence of PD.

[Pelley in reply to zawy]

Dr Andrew Wakefield was drummed out of the UK because of that very thought. He was proven wrong by studies (funded by the AMA) when he promoted the same in the US. All I know is the amount of vaccinations given me in my youth was less than half of the stuff children need and are required to get today.

Seems "less is more" should come to mind for more than human character............

[Hikoi in reply to Pelley]

Wakefield (born c. 1957) is a British former surgeon and medical researcher, known for his fraudulent 1998 research paper in support of the now-discredited claim that there was a link between the administration of the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine, and the appearance of autism and bowel disease.[1][2][3][4][5]

After the publication of the paper, other researchers were unable to reproduce Wakefield's findings or confirm his hypothesis of an association between the MMR vaccine and autism,[6] or autism and gastrointestinal disease.[7] A 2004 investigation by Sunday Times reporter Brian Deer identified undisclosed financial conflicts of interest on Wakefield's part,[8] and most of his co-authors then withdrew their support for the study's interpretations.[9] The British General Medical Council (GMC) conducted an inquiry into allegations of misconduct against Wakefield and two former colleagues.[10] The investigation centred on Deer's numerous findings, including that children with autism were subjected to unnecessary invasive medical procedures such as colonoscopies and lumbar punctures,[11] and that Wakefield acted without the required ethical approval from an institutional review board.

On 28 January 2010, a five-member statutory tribunal of the GMC found three dozen charges proved, including four counts of dishonesty and 12 counts involving the abuse of developmentally challenged children.[12] The panel ruled that Wakefield had "failed in his duties as a responsible consultant", acted both against the interests of his patients, and "dishonestly and irresponsibly" in his published research.[13][14][15] The Lancet fully retracted the 1998 publication on the basis of the GMC's findings, noting that elements of the manuscript had been falsified.[16] The Lancet's editor-in-chief Richard Horton said the paper was "utterly false" and that the journal had been "deceived".[17] Three months following The Lancet's retraction, Wakefield was struck off the UK medical register, with a statement identifying deliberate falsification in the research published in The Lancet,[18] and was barred from practising medicine in the UK.[19]

In January 2011, an editorial accompanying an article by Brian Deer in BMJ identified Wakefield's work as an "elaborate fraud".[1][20][21] In a follow-up article,[22] Deer said that Wakefield had planned to launch a venture on the back of an MMR vaccination scare that would profit from new medical tests and "litigation driven testing".[23] In November 2011, yet another report in BMJ[24] revealed original raw data indicating that, contrary to Wakefield's claims in The Lancet, children in his research did not have inflammatory bowel disease.[25][26]

[mistydog1 in reply to Pelley]

I'm like you Pelley I don't believe in getting the flu shot. I think it depends on your age, If I was older maybe in my 70's then I would.

[Kanu-Kamdar]

Flu shota are a shot in the midst of nowhere. Even a UN report I had read a few years back had talked of its non effectiveness. I agree that "Less is More" as vaccines are no gurantee

[Donzim]

Parties suffer more than normal with EVERYTHING....even a cold will be worse than normal folks get. I suspect this is because all infections affect the nervous system and theirs is already impaired.

[rosemarcus]

Try taking Oscillococcinum or generic, a homeopathic medicine that is very

effective in eliminating flu symptoms if you take it as soon as you get

symptoms. The flu is usually gone in several hours.

[cabbagecottage]

if you have FLU , I don't mean these viruses that everyone get. I do mean Flu It knocks you flat out in bed , .

unfortunately I have had it. A number of times . My husband never do or my mother . it worries me now until I do get the Jab . I have had it since I was at the age they started to give them ... I seriously don't want to tempt fate , but I haven't had flu or a cole since starting having it .

now if I do get it this year I will name th person who started this thread lol.

I know others have said it doesn't suit them and I was told that last years wouldn't have been affective .

I have also Been told that the GPS get paid the each vaccine they give , Don't know how right this is .

[tobykeith]

I have found any sickness is worse since I have Parkinson's. I do take a flu shot every year.

[laglag]

I used to get the flu quite often, but I get a shot every year now. It has helped me. I'm also taking Amantadine from dyskensia & I believe it also is used to prevent viruses, please correct me if I'm wrong.

[Sunnysky]

Hi Zawy

Whenever I have been exposed to a bug or virus or any thing similar my PD symptoms increase lots for a few days I panic and think thats it I've gone to a worse stage and actually getting a bad cold or flu you definitely fare worse than not having PD

But fortunately in my case after the initial 2 to 3 days I go back to status Quo

Keep Poitive

Sunnysky