can wilsons diease be caused by hep c
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No, hepatitis C can never be the cause of Wilson's disease. Wilson's disease is a genetic disease in which copper metabolism in the body is disturbed, and hepatitis C is an infectious viral disease in which the virus infects the liver cells. If you mean the possibility that one person may have both Wilson's disease and hepatitis C, then this is possible. Accordingly, such a patient has at least two factors of liver damage and their negative impact is summed up.
thanks for your reply fibro, so if you have hep c could you possibly get high copper due to the bile ducts becoming blocked,so like a secondary illness ?
Yes, if there is no Wilson's disease, then we can talk about a secondary metabolic disorder. Copper-containing and copper-transport proteins are synthesized in the liver. The liver is also the main excretory organ for copper, and it is clear that liver diseases cause metabolic disorders. Copper metabolism disorders are both genetic, which underlies Wilson disease, and acquired in nature. Japanese researchers have identified a direct significant correlation between the copper content in the liver tissue and the degree of fibrosis in chronic viral hepatitis C.
thanks for that Fibro, do you know if taking zinc acetate would help if its hep c caused,
No, I don't know anything about it. I think it is better to consult a doctor about taking medications.
I just want to clarify here that zinc and copper are antagonists to each other and taking zinc-containing drugs makes it difficult for copper to be absorbed in the intestine. Perhaps your question was related to this phenomenon?
thanks Fibro,i read that if you have wilsons disease you take zinc to stop the uptake of copper from food but not sure if it would work the same if the high copper levels are due to hep c.i think your right though ,an appointment with the doc for some more tests,but thankyou for all your help x
I am glad to have helped. I think this should work anyway. These are very gentle interactions and for a correct assessment, we need to know the initial status of zinc and copper before starting treatment. Then it's necessary to evaluate all possible undesirable effects and risks associated with such treatment, as well as the benefits of its implementation. It's possible that dynamic monitoring of these microelements during treatment is necessary to select the optimal dose and the possibility of its correction. There is no doubt that only a competent and trained doctor can perform such an assessment.
Heavy metal is a scary areaMost doctors or health professional have no idea and rerely test, it is costly.
Your doctor could be right. No liver issues
Your accupunncture fix could have been a fad.
Ammonia toxicity is normally an upper duodenum gastro issue, Kidney issue or worst case liver. Liver will exhibit itself as pain in upper right rib section.
The slightest pain we Google stuff, self assessment is interesting if you can treat as such , just more info your health care person should be as able to advise.
Most times we have have minor twinges and jump off the deep end. Just take a paracetamol or have a good night's sleep and re-evaluate the next day
But worry is a killer , cortisol floods the body and has a terrible impact on most organs.
Best wishes
If you've not seen it already the BLT has information on both Wilson's Disease & Hepatitis C on their website.
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Katie
Apologies for my intrusion
But why do you think you have Wilson's disease ?To the best of my knowledge, It is a genetic disorder with a 1 in 30,000 chance of presenting itself.
Do you have the characteristic eye,iris ring or are you just throwing a query out to the forum.
Hi Smokey, I had a test which showed high levels of copper,someone mentioned wilsons disease to me ,but i dont think its that now,i thinkits more likely due to the state of my liver,i also have high ammonia so not sure what state my liver is in,whenever i go to docs they say its fine but it clearly isnt.going to book an appointment with a private hepatologist to see whats going on
Have you been diagnosed with hepatitis C if I understood correctly? A high ammonia level is most likely a marker of portosystemic shunting if there is no other reason for it, such as any congenital metabolic disorder. Are you receiving treatment to lower your ammonia levels? Ammonia levels are often elevated in hepatic encephalopathy (HE).
No i havnt had a diagnosis(by the NHS) yet Fibro,i got a positive reading on a bioresonance machine,which said i had hep c ,i even got the subtype which was 1 a .i was also told i had hepatitis 20 odd years ago by an accupunturist who treat me for two years and got me better, i got ill again about 12 years ago ,the docs couldnt find anything wrong ,although i have really low white cell count and have had since my twenties, i was diagnosed with ME and left to get on with it. I went to docs and told him about the biores test and he shouted at me that i didnt have it so i insisted on a test.he said it came back negative.I dont believe him.2 years ago all my hair fell out and i am very poorly but since my nhs test came back negative i have nowhere to turn.I should mention that my brother died from liver cancer aged 26 and my mum died from something that looked like liver disease but never got a diagnosis of anything,they said there was nothing wrong with her even though she was hallucinating.im pretty sure i know whats gone on but all my medical records have strangely been lost
Unfortunately, the bioresonance method has not been scientifically confirmed, and in some countries it is directly prohibited for use along with homeopathy. I would not advise relying on it in the diagnosis.
May I ask what makes you think about liver disease? Perhaps you have been identified the influence of hepatotoxic factors for example of alcohol or have symptoms of hepatic encephalopathy? How are you diagnosed with high ammonia? Was it a lab test?
Hi Fibro,yes it was a private lab,my mum was given anti D back in the day,and as i mentioned my brother died from liver disease,which they misdiagnosed as an ulcer for 4 years,he came home on medical leave from the army and died within 2 weeks, my own illness, and my mums all point to liver disease ,the diagnosis by alernative methods just clarified it for me. i do think the next step is proper testing, scans etc. there was one thing i thought of though,if you have very low white cells ,low antibodies, might this give a false negative on a blood test that uses antibodies for results ?
ps i dont drink much alcohol,never have really, have never smoked ,no factors at all that i can think of for why i should be so poorly
The external factor is only one of the arrows. Perhaps some genetic features also can influence. Given your family history, it's worth being on guard... If you have doubts due to a low level of antibodies, then you can conduct a PCR study and close this issue. and the determination of the level of cerruloplasmin and the daily excretion of copper in the urine can more clearly show whether there is a violation of copper metabolism or was it just an accidentally elevated indicator.
