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Hi everyone , as you all know already , I had a heart attack a month ago. I have been invited to get the second vaccine on Sunday the 16th . I’m curious weither this will go ahead due to it being so soon after the ha and the meds in on .

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Garry56

Yes it should still go ahead i had mine on the 27th april followed by icd implant on the 30th i am also on 9 different pills a day

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Thanks Barry , can I ask , what is an icd implant , I have no clue what the majority of what people talk about is tbh . Also after your second vaccine how was your side effects ? I’ve heard the second vac side effects ya are horrendous

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Icd is implantable cardiovascular device if my heart rate goes to high or too low i get a small shock to regulate it again i had no side effects off either covid jabs just the usual sore arm

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Wow that sounds terrifying, and like something out of a science fiction movie . Isn’t the medical word wonderful.

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The thought of it at first was scarey but now its in there i feel safer in the knowledge that any thing happens i got some insurance and the medical world today is amazing

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Check with your own GP before you go.

A very small % of people have ‘horrendous’ side effects.

Most people, with either of the vaccines have similar side effects to that of the flu vaccine, which is primarily down to the immune system reacting as you would hope it would.

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No chance of gettin the gp now , they are closed and the vaccine is on Sunday . I felt like I was run over by a truck with the first dose of the Astra Zeneca vaccine, so obviously worried about getting more of it so soon after the ha .

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Just make sure you speak to a GP when you get to the vaccination centre.

I know some who reacted to the 1st jab but where fine with the 2nd.

Good luck

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I agree; ask when you get here. I have a friend who had no side effects wit the first but he second knocked her out and another the opposite way round. I had none at all nor did my son or husband. There is always a doctor available at he centre.

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HiI had the usual talked about side effects from my 1st jab, so probably not as bad as your experience by the sounds of it. I experienced no side effects after the second jab, the only thing I did was to preempt them by taking a dose of paracetamol about 6 hrs after the jab. Speak to the staff on duty about your concerns before having the jab tomorrow but as is said, the risks of not being fully protected far outweigh the risks of having it.

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Hi Garry56, I thought I was the only one taking 9 different meds a day, been on them since ha in January 2019, also had both of my vaccinations,Be safe.

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For me 9 pills per day since 2011 now they want me to start a diabetic pill as it helps strengthen the heart 🤦

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Well look at this way Garry, together we are keeping the pharmaceutical companies in businesses, part of my 9 a day is 500mg metformin mornings and another 500mg in the early evening.

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Wow thats a lot the one they want me to use they said will make me go loo more its bad enough with the furusamide im on

Thank you x

My husband was poorly after his first dose of astrazenica but had his second dose Thursday and has been absolutely fine this time hasn't even had a sore arm

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I had my second dose 8 weeks after my MI this year and have had no ill effects. To be honest, you’ll be on that many blood thinners and anti-platelet meds, you could roll around in clots and be ok😂I discussed my condition with them at the site first and they were very thorough

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Hahah ! Yeah I’m going to go , my husband is worried and wants me to call a doctor/ helpline etc and none are open . I think I’m just worried it kills me cus I have it in my head that the reason I had the ha is because I had the vaccine ( both my daughter and daughter n law are nurses as well ) 🙄🙄🙄 I don’t know I’m just worried af of the after effects of it due to how I felt after the first one . Paint me a worrywort 😂😂

I was in hospital for 4 days with AF and had my 1st jab booked for the day after I got home. I asked the consultant if I should have it and he said yes, definitely. I had a bit of a headache the next morning, took a couple of paracetamol and I was fine. I had my 2nd one 2 weeks after I had an ICD implanted and started taking blood thinners, but I had no ill effects at all. There's no way of knowing how anyone will react, but unless the doctors have said you shouldn't have it, go ahead. Talk to the staff at the vaccination centre for reassurance, but I'm sure it will be fine.

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Aww thanks ! That’s exactly what I was wanting to hear xx

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Qualipop

Ring and ask- they are very helpful.

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Cookie2020

Had my 2nd dose yesterday 14 May No problem go for it and get yourself protected 😉👍💉

You don't say when you had your first jab. Have you considered the possibility that the first jab caused your heart attack? Not for me, but ultimately it's your body and your choice.

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Yeah sorry I had the first vaccine six weeks before the ha. So it is a worry for me .

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I think you have to weight up the pros and cons. I know nothing of your medical background so can't say whether the virus presents a bigger risk to you. It is known that the coronavirus vaccine (all of them) affects endothelial function. There is a clearly understood mechanism by which the vaccines can be shown to cause a heart attack in some people.

Ultimately, only you can decide what is best. I speak as someone who took some prescribed medication 6 years ago I was assured was safe that in all likelehood I did not need. Since then I've had a heart attack, 13 operations (with more to come) and have been in constant pain. Before then I considered myself relatively healthy.

I hope you start feeling better soon. It sounds like you've been having a tough time of things.

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Oh wow I’m so sorry to hear that about you that’s horrible. I hope they can resolve the issues you have soon . Xx

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I think I'm screwed tbh, but some days are better than others. Thanks for your kind words.

If you google "vaccine induced endothelial dysfunction" you'll find lots of information, some more easier to understand than others.

Don't blindly follow what me and others say, do your own research and make your own decisions, but don't make them out of ignorance.

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I have done my own research I live with a heart condition which is due to endothelial dysfunction.

Covid is thought to effect the whole cardiovascular system.

Including Microvascular and endothelial dysfunction causing clotting disorders and coronary vasospasms.

What we all require is unbiased information to help make an evidence based decision.

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Me too. What's your view on antibody dependent enhancement and pathological priming?

You don't think urging them to do their own research is helpful? You don't think it's right to highlight a potential issue? Do you work for the government?

BTW, you neglected to answer my question.

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I do encourage people to make an informed decision.

I obtained my diagnosis by challenging the orthodox view by doing my own research.

Life comes with risk. I do have an issue if individuals push their particular agenda or inflate or distort risk.

We are living through a pandemic.

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I think we find some agreement, which is always a good thing. I am keen though to hear your views on ADE from your research, it is relevant to the conversation.

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We have something else in common. We both live with pain in our lives I have not always been served well by the system either.Pain is tough to live with, nobody can see it.

Can you please use plain English and explain any abbreviations you use?

Many forum members often complain when abbreviations and terminology they don't understand are used.

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Sorry yes, ADE - antibody dependent enhancement. It's a feature of certain vaccines and one that posed many serious problems in prior animal studies of coronavirus vaccines.

I take aspirin. I stopped the other antiplatelet after 6 months as it was causing severe problems. I stopped the blood pressure meds. My BP is now typically 105/65.

I declined the covid vaccination. What's your view on antibody dependent enhancement? It's one (but not the only reason) I have declined the covid jab.

Very true. My closest friend did very badly with covid earlier this year and at one stage had a 10% chance of survival. He's on the road to recovery now but shows little interest in addressing the underlying health issues that almost certainly contributed to his poor response. Still, I support him however I can. Contrast that with a 40 something woman who lives 3 doors away from me, who "appeared to be" in good health. Suffered a massive stroke a few weeks after the jab and died days later. I realise anecdotal references proves nothing either way, which is why I think it's important to research these things yourself (or rely on the research of someone you trust implicitly).

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We all have our sad stories to tell about Covid.I am sorry to hear about your friend and neighbour.

I have lost a friend and former colleague to Covid.

I feel we can say we both agree for the need to make an informed choice based on robust trust worthy evidence and advice.

Aww good !! It’s an added worry isn’t it on top of everything else . Oh well I’ll trod along tomorrow see what they say and get it done . It’s a the Astra Zeneca vaccine for me though .

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See what they say. I'm sure you could delay if you'd rather wait to check with GP.

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