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Any body know about getting COPD from working in the rag trade from the dust

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Mine was othere toxic dust ... But yes i have heard of it :p

Whats been sad as gp band copd around like sweets

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elian

My mother passed away, aged 58 (many years ago now, before COPD was 'invented') after donkey's years of living with chronic bronchitis and emphysema :( She had worked in the rag industry and we (my late father and I ) always put the cause down to the dusty atmosphere she worked in.

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Hi, I don't know about the rag trade but years ago I went to the Manchester Museum of Science & Industry where they had a working "cotton mill". The cotton dust went straight onto my chest and I had to leave. Libby

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Bliss2 in reply tolibby7827

Do you have COPD Bliss

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libby7827 in reply toBliss2

Yes, I do Bliss. It's at the severe stage now but it was probably about 16 years ago and was only moderate then. Libby

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Bliss2 in reply tolibby7827

I'm so sorry to hear that Libby did you every smoke Bliss

Ad rather have copd than emphasema :p

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Me too, 'cos it's easier to spell and say ? :D

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Katlover in reply to

emphysema is COPD dazi ;)

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Think your wrong copd is obstruction emphasema is lungs rotting away end stage .... Nothing like copd

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Gordon57 in reply to

Sorry Daz, but they are one and the same. Here you go - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chron...

Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) ... is the occurrence of chronic bronchitis or emphysema ...

or

blf.org.uk/Conditions/Detai...

COPD stands for chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. It is the name used to describe a number of conditions, including chronic bronchitis and emphysema, where people have difficulty breathing because of long-term damage to their lungs.

Feel free to check with your GP, nurse, consultant etc - they've obviously not explained it to you. Remember, you're on a site full of people with COPD :)

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I agree in part but you go beyond copd

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Gordon57 in reply to

I guess you've not had the BLF information pack - give them a call on 03000 030 555, they'll put it in the post for you.

It's not just me making it up y'know ;) Click the link and have a read :- blf.org.uk/Conditions/Detai...

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No a beleve you .. But like you say copd could mean so much .... Most Gp use term to descibe everything ... Yes copd is easy to spell but i still would have perferd copd ... And not other :)

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Gordon57 in reply to

Some GP's get it wrong, COPD is basically the two conditions chronic bronchitis and emphysema. Asthma is something else, as are many others - there's a handy list here :- blf.org.uk/Conditions

The cause of the disease can come from many sources, resulting in emphysema or bronchitis. If a GP tried to say COPD is something else then they are mis-informed.

Give the helpline a call and get the info pack, there's a DVD with it too.

in reply toGordon57

Thanks .... But Looking At My Ct Scan Was Enough Excrement .... Don't Think I Have Quite Recovered Do You Think They Have Anything For A Cold And Head Ache ... Don't Fancy Going To My GP

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robert1 in reply toGordon57

hi Gorden have you heard off hemp oil check out rick simpson on you tube let me know if its any good for any of us thanks Carol x

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Gordon57

OK, to answer the question. Nobody knows all the causes of COPD, it could come about from many situations in life. Smoking gets the blame for most of it, but I'd like someone to try and give me a percentage of proven cases.

Although I smoked for a long time, I do not accept that this was the cause of my condition. It may not have helped, but I had pneumonia 20 years ago, caused by working in a wet/dusty new building, and after a week in hospital I was left with reduced lung capacity and scar tissue on my lungs, which often causes a panic with junior doctors looking at x-rays. :O Not long after I was told I had asthma and then years later I was diagnosed with COPD.

In my time I've also worked in a dusty environment, in a textile mill handling all sorts of fibres, including man-made fluff through to goats and even human hair, horrible dusty stuff that made you cough up black lumps (sorry to anyone who's just eaten). In another job I was a storeman, handling metal mainly but also chemicals like Cadmium which was used to weatherproof metal plates, or Trichloroethane (methyl chloroform) which was used for degreasing.

I even had small bottles of Trichloroethane at home, it was used in tippex thinners for many years, before being banned. I used to have a small hand operated printing press and the solvent was brilliant in cleaning up the typeface and roller plate when mixed half and half with washing up liquid ;)

Dust, chemicals, smoke, fumes, so many potential triggers in our lives that it's amazing anyone is still alive. But, doctors are very quick to ask about smoking first, and that's what will go on the notes. Too easy for them, instead of anyone actually finding out the cause.

The simple answer is yes, handling rags and the dust could be a cause.

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Agreed :)

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Bliss2 in reply toGordon57

Thank you Gordon that was very interesting to read speak to you again Bliss

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about 18 years ago i was rushed to hospital as what doc thorght a colaps lung as had all the simpson .keeped in for i think two weeks and sent home lost the job i was doing as i was a chef . fond out it was all to do with the job as i use to be a tandore chef the only reson i found out was a doc from the restrant told me it was thought the chacole and the funms from the chickens been ill ever sincs sorry about spelling as tyerd

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longdays in reply toGordon57

so right you are i am the same . i have emphysema had it 5 years now . its worse now i dont go out much now only to the hospital . with my daughter. test after test from last year had a heart pro , i worked with chemicals to and now i have nodules on my upper left lung lol it can only can better, its not the cigs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I worked with latex for about ten years, and the rolls of latex were covered wit silicone powder to stop it sticking to itself. This powder was finer than talcum powder and left a nasty taste on my lips. I have COPD. Doctors poo poo my ideas that this was a cause of my Copd, saying I would have had to work with Silicone for years...I Did.

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linb

Smoke from spot welding and fumes from soldering but all docs want to know.

Do you smoke, when did you stop, how many a day.

Don`t even bother mentioning the above anymore

Lin x

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Gordon57

As are being reported here, many other causes - but the medical profession are focused only smoking. "Did you smoke? - yes - ticks box - next!"

Here you are BLF - lots of people who can provide their background story, to aid the work in discovering the cause(s), if not the cure ?

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Only cure is to be Mp and Lazy

As we are busy worrieing about breathing torys govermeant are busy changing law on industrial work place injury compansation

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Katlover

Thereby not helping the great British public's perception that COPD is a smoking disease

and the 'tut tut, did to yourself then' response to anyone who has had it

xxx

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chrissie53

I to worked in dusty atmosphere,,used to make fireplaces out of mdf,,the place was like a floating cloud,,then from there worked in a engineering company,,breathed in more coolant than i care to remember,,did the 12 hr night shift,,would come out in the morning feeling like my lungs where bursting,,yes i smoked but only occasionaly,,but like you say the doc,s do not listen to where you worked,,i,m sure we all no a copd sufferer who never smoked,,,,,

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Gordon57 in reply tochrissie53

Yep - another common one is MDF, the dust contains "... urea-formaldehyde and other volatile organic compounds that pose health risks at sufficient concentrations, for at least several months after manufacture."

More on Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediu...

Could be worth having a chat to a no win - no claim type solicitor as you may be able to get compensation if you were not given proper masks etc.

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Ozzygirl64

I have heard of different causes including asbestos( I am sure that is what the GP said) but had never heard of it in the rag trade until now. But I think it figures if there is all that material dust in the air and you are breathing it in then anything is possible xxxxx

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chrissie53

Sadly or not so sadly the company went bust that made the fires,,so no one to sue,,

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SecondLife in reply tochrissie53

The company may well have disappeared but there is a Government compensation scheme, someone from BLF will be able to help you with that

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brooksju

Hi there, I also worked with textiles for 20 years in a hospital linen room and laundry and you could see the dust and fibres in the air all the time so I do believe that if you have the weekness in the chest that is genetic like me then it is not only the ciggys that do the damage.

Sorry this reply a bit late, take care.

Teigy x

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Thank you x

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Legally there can be 4 mg of respitable dust in the work place and 10 mg of inhalable dust so an employer does not have to take any action if the levels are below this level. That does not mean that inhaling the dust does not cause harm. Even 1 mg of respitable is thought to be linked to lung diseases.

Basically there is no real protection from dust in the work place.

Regards

Warren.

Teaspoon Holds Just Under 5mg 2 Teasoon 10mg Per Shift Over A Square Meter So In Contrast .... You Have Flamable Dust In The Work Place But You Would Not Work In Such Ridiculous Place Still Have To Be Coal Miner Way To High Now Wonder Everyone's Got Lung Problems And There's Factory Fires

But You Could Put Claim Is As You Could Not See Proper Thus Caused You Injury :)

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