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Diet: Boris Johnson's campaign against obesity.

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Those of us with COPD might want to be careful of their diet, but BoJo's plans may not be fully in line with our requirements.

Here is a list for some of the NHS recommended food requirements for COPD, such as cheese, which appear on BoJo's naughty list, to be ignored by us.

oxleas.nhs.uk/long-term-con...

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HungryHufflepuff profile image
HungryHufflepuff

That's really informative. 👍

Bkin profile image
Bkin

A great NHS information page 2g :)

I think all those on diets for particular health probs will still be following same. I think Boris plans are aiming the general obesity in the population who are not yet dealing with health issues related or unrelated to obesity.

Generally for lungs and Diabetes, protein is important (including cheese, but not excessively) - this is so for most health related probs as is trying to maintain a good weight, ie not overweight and not underweight.

The news clip I saw last night mentioned UK obesity hot spots where whole families were overweight, possibly in those hot spot areas the people consumed too much of the fast foods, takeaways, the wrong foods.

There is concern that the children are trending more to overweight in these areas which is not good for their health now or long term and really this should be the responsibility of the parent, but when the parents are the same (and their parents) I guess that is why Boris feels the need to take action. Another way to help avoid a nation of overweights developing serious health issues and avoiding excess demand on the NHS treatments etc.

Just my thoughts - I know I may think differently to many people though :D

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2greys in reply to Bkin

Overall, approx 50 % of the population are overweight, but the Gov, as usual, are using a one size suits all policy.

What about the very large number of children that are already undernourished, as well as the parents that go without anything at all, just to put something on their children's plates, even if it is cheap junk food ie fill belly. I see no mention of a campaign for them, I wonder just how much under nourishment cost the NHS. You can be both overweight and under nourished at the same time. The cost of a healthy balanced diet vs cheap junk food is also an issue.

Why was domestic science dropped in schools, we have a uneducated generation who cannot even look after themselves let alone their families?

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Annie31 in reply to 2greys

It was called Domestic Science when I was at school, it was called Home Economics when my kids were at school. Now my grandson does cookery and loves it but that class is now called Cookery and Food Preparation at least at his school it is. I asked him if they had theory as well to learn about nutrition, health and safety and economics and he said yes. Apparently they have to do this lesson every year at secondary school ie compulsory but can choose to continue as a GCSE option, which he has, or drop it altogether. So they do get somewhat of an education in this subject but I suppose some do not take it seriously or much less interested.

I think you are right about there having to be more education in this subject but fail to see where it can be done compulsorily other than in the school setting. You have to get people sufficiently interested in the first place I would have thought. It is a difficult one.

I do agree with you about the 'one size suits all', but then I think most of their policies are. I think previous governments as well as this one have dealt and do deal in the 'knee-jerk ' reaction way, no long term policies just short term in order to appease.

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peege in reply to 2greys

Sports and exercise also dropped in schools, appalling.

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Ladyindistress79 in reply to peege

Schools had playing fields taken by the council for housing. This should never have happened. The children need the fresh air and room to play games.

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Bkin in reply to 2greys

Vegetables are really really cheap and so are pulses, there is really no need for anyone to be under nourished its just having the will to do the best we can for our bodies, its not the governments responsibility really, it is the individuals and the parent of children.

In addition there is the food banks and the food there is not all junk food. Its the quick junk food that help folk toward obesity.

Seasononal fruit and vegetables are always very reasonably priced, the amount spend for a family on fast food could buy a huge amount of healthy food, in Aldi or iceland. It goes without saying those large families will be receiving child benefits.

Health Education should be part of the curriculum and that should include, diet, fitness, state of mind etc. all things need to help people function and be healthy day to day.

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hypercat54 in reply to 2greys

I completely agree with you. I know when I was on benefits I would choose foods that would fill me up. Eating healthy wasn't top of my agenda! Many these days can't afford healthy food. If you have children who are hungry what would fill them up more? An apple or a bag of crisps? Some people have no notion of poverty at all and assume all overweight people are just 'too lazy' to cook, or don't know how too.

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Angelagone in reply to hypercat54

So true. My daughter, at one point had a food budget of £30 to feed herself and my granddaughter. She bought what was cheap and filling.

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tomc

We seem to be in a nanny state with BoJo.

One that is suited to his occasional enlightenment, he now says "in my recent infection I realize how being overweight impacts on our health".

Good on you sir BUT Do you fancy having a disability and having to face the experience of the assessment for PIP for example.. try it, and maybe, just maybe, Disabled people will get a more humane and less harrowing assessment claim for the said benefits.

Being old and frail is not a crime.....but bullying, lying and false assessments by an authorised system DEFINITELY IS....

bad legs have to use walking stick .... deduct two points, for using an aid?

Candidate says Can hardly breath ... assessor says mild cough ... go away

The list of (lets say) miss assessments is long, all to put ill people through an appeal. disgraceful.

PS. this is not my situation yet, I hope things are better after my 10 year Assessment

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Oshgosh

I wonder how much cheese he ate.

He seems really worried about obesity.what about the prospect of a spike in Covid?

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HungryHufflepuff in reply to Oshgosh

When he was in Scotland which was about four days ago, he visited a cheese producer 🤷‍♂️ 🤷‍♀️

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Bkin

Daily update from GOV.​UK.

Major new campaign encourages millions to lose weight and cut COVID-19 risk

Page summary

A new national campaign is under way to encourage millions of adults to kick start their health and reduce their risk of serious illness, including COVID-19.

Change made

First published.

Time updated

10:22am, 27 July 2020

From Public Health England:

gov.uk/government/news/majo...

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2greys in reply to Bkin

More free school meals 'would stop diet disaster'

bbc.co.uk/news/education-53...

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Bkin in reply to 2greys

gov.uk/apply-free-school-meals

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Ergendl

A lot of people who are overweight or obese have other issues that need to be resolved. When obesity is a symptom rather than a problem in itself, any weight lost will not usually be permanent.

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2greys

Minnesota Center for Eating Disorders Research.

med.umn.edu/psychiatry/rese...

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Jaybird19

maybe Boris should look at the government box sent to me. I f I can remember the only veg were potatoes and carrots.

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