Oxygen ATOM's what's all this lung disease about ...

TODAY I find myself asking serious questions looking for answers following my own research.

HERE GO's .. DO none smokers need oxygen before smokers when it comes to lung diseases ... I would say the DO.

WHY do I say that SMOKERS operate on lower oxygen threshold .. Our cells have three missing ATOMs in none smokers our environment or oxygen therapy fills the gap of those missing ATOMs.

But some say the very destructive and causes cells to mutate other's say it's part of LIFEs ageing process SO is that why none smokers fair worser than smokers WHEN it comes to lung dieasee and hypoxia.

Have read of link.

livescience.com/3093-smokin...

In SMOKERs the missing ATOMs I have talked about in none smokers are APPEASED by CO2 carbon monoxide thus are not as destructive and operate at lower oxygen freehold demand SO when it comes to lung filters WHAT would seem best.

A body that can operate at lower oxygen demand given diseased lungs OR one that try's to operate on high oxygen demand given diseased lung's

Here is video that explains things further.

youtube.com/watch?v=47u3-Ga...(Not working as expected?)

As usual these are my thoughts scratching AND I would advise anyone to give up smoking myself included.

But it would be interesting to here from anyone on oxygen therapy who as had more celular problems since starting oxygen.

Further reading : ucsdnews.ucsd.edu/archive/n...

[Offcut]

Interesting point it has also been found that smokers seem to do better at altitude as they are used to lower O2 level and tolerate it better. They have said they class me as a non smoker now as I gave up in 1992. But I still cannot get O2 help!

Be Well

[Hidden in reply to Offcut]

Hi offcuts thanks for reply ... As been quite interesting finding stuff out oxygen is not suitable for everyone as it causes water retention oedema stuff .

Am sure that's why some can't have it if showing signs vascular disease WHAT I did find interesting is oxygen is absorbed threw vain's arteries.

Is all very interesting stuff and guess this lot to be said for having sly fag

Cheers thanks again

[ol-ly11 in reply to Hidden]

We have just been told on our pulmonary rehab course that if your SATS are 92 and above most or all the time oxygen won't be of use but if your SATS are between 88-92 or lower then Oxygen will help. We were also told that we would have to have it 16 hours a day to get any benifit which although a lot could be done at night you would still have a lot to do at home during the day. I gave up smoking 9 years ago. Interesting though what you are saying.

[Watfordgirl in reply to ol-ly11]

Umm, O2 needs to be prescribed for an individual's needs. If you're a CO2 retainer, too much O2 can cause retention of CO2 which can be nasty. We can be told rough guidelines but need to follow what's prescribed for us, as we would with any other medication.

Hope you're enjoying rehab. Sue x

[Hidden in reply to Watfordgirl]

Hi Watfordgirl defo agree about co2 retention that's why doctors like us to stop smoking as it's nightmare trying to manage our conditions

[Hidden in reply to ol-ly11]

Hi Ol_ly11 Cheers Nurses said same to me when was talk of arburtry oxygen therapy with myself.

Defo is interesting.

[stilltruckin in reply to Offcut]

Smokers have a higher haemoglobin level than non-smokers: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/239...

[Hidden in reply to stilltruckin]

Hi Stilltrucking nice to see ya about

Dose that prove my point ?

Is all very intresting .. I tested few life long none smokers friends and there sats on spo2 meter was worse than mine.

Guess doubters out there can allways test it on none smokers them self.

Guess it's eather asbestos that trashed my lung or fact I never started smoking till mid 20's

Thanks again for link read.

[Toci]

Still living - still learning....

Cheers JAS. x

[Hidden in reply to Toci]

Hi Toci Glad to hear ya still living DEFO a plus plus in my opinion

Learning WHAT good is it if this no scandal juicy bits

[carolg1]

Hi I have got a mega mega mucus problem which I have had for a couple of years really but when I think about the mucus has tripled since I have been on oxygen but the docs say they not think it's anything to do with this . X fed up I am no answers re why so much !,x

[Hidden in reply to carolg1]

Am no expert but if oxygen consentraion is to high can cause inflation was reading this 75% and 100%

Do you kniw what presentage your on .. the say 100% causes fluied issues.

I would talk to one of the nurses that help with your oxygen OR drop blf a line call or email

[carolg1 in reply to Hidden]

Hi Jeff, I'm on 2L supposed to be 15 hours a day but I find that hard to be on some days I can only manage about 10 hours or so, I asked the oxygen nurse and she said she thought oxygen had a more drying effect rather than a mucus production effect ? But I will sk the help line thanks. X

[Hidden in reply to carolg1]

Hi yer oxygen as concentration % not litters.

youtube.com/watch?v=WSjQDGn...(Not working as expected?)

I would ask blf for sure WHEN i tried oxygen was like trying to breath threw a brick.

[scorpiolass]

Very interesting but I find it difficult to follow equations these days. I don't know whether this is a COPD thing or an age related problem.

[Hidden in reply to scorpiolass]

Ad not worry bout it I to have issues DEFO a copd thing

[Offcut]

Whenever I get put on o2 my headaches go and I feel better in my self. My average is 92 at rest and can go as low as 78 after going up my stairs at home. But cannot get support O2 at all?

I have been checked for Co2 retention a number of times in the ear and the artery (which really hurts ) and I am not retainer!

Be well

[Hidden in reply to Offcut]

Hi offcuts I would ask about arburtry oxygen and constantrations they do BUT I know why the won't give it you.

It's coz your heart works harder and given you heart problems prob don't want to push you over the edge.

Could always register with a diving school the can buy oxygen BUT I would not recommend it given your condition.

[Offcut in reply to Hidden]

Ah that makes a bit of sense as they found protein in my last blood test that showed heart failure maybe they said?

[Hidden in reply to Offcut]

Yer not many know ya can be walking round with heart failur.

Not thst doctors tell you unless you ask

Be quite a few un aware on healthunlocked