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Have you heard of people using psychedelics to assist with their symptoms of anxiety and/ or depression, e.g. Psilocybin

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compasnet

Several of my friends, as I was getting older and going to college before I went to graduate school claimed that LSD and other hallucinogens were "good for" anxiety and depression.

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Sleeplessme

I dont want to vote, because a weighty reault on the side of yes could suggest its a good idea, and I don't for a second think it is. Any drug, even heroin, could be claimed to be 'good' for anxiety becauae it would, I'm sure, make you feel great for a while. But as with all drugs there's the comedown, and the addiction, and more anxiety than you started with. Even cannabis. I know dozens of people who, in their younger years, would be happy to tell the world how safe it is and how fantastic it is, then in later years wish they'd never taken it because they wasted their lives and opportunities smoking pot.

So yes, I have heard of people using psychedelics to assist with their symptoms of anxiety, but I dont for a second think it's a good idea.

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AnonymousUsername13 in reply to Sleeplessme

I've done everything, all in my younger years. I regret it all. I think it's what made my anxiety so much worse as i got older.

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BeeBee50 in reply to Sleeplessme

i agree 👍 it maybe a good thing at the time because you're in such pain, but the repercussions are worse as you have to deal with the come down and it becomes a vicious circle. I haven't touched weed for 20yrs 🙏🏻 but I substituted it with alcohol for the life I was living....now I'm in control of it, I don't and won't take any drugs unless they are prescription for my conditions but I'll never judge anyone on the subject as you just want one day and night free of constant pain 🥰

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Spooky99 in reply to Sleeplessme

agreed! It scares me. I SWEAR ever since I smoked pot in the early 90’s , I’ve suffered anxiety attacks very badly!!! Not sure if it was the cause , but very coincidental!!! I feel the same paranoia when having an attack as I did when I smoked pot

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hello111111

I wonder how they get it

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BeeBee50 in reply to hello111111

do you mean how do people get the drugs? Its like a sweet shop these days, someone anywhere can hook you up for anything these days its so easy and is so available (btw I don't don't have street drugs, i just know the activity in my area)

I have enough to deal with prescription drugs now for my multple conditions, but there's always a substitute whether you stop script meds, a substitute can be anything from drinking, shopping, and painkiller addiction, sorry if I'm being too honest but thats the way the world is now 😢

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NickieLane in reply to BeeBee50

agree

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Blueruth in reply to hello111111

Legally you can be part of a study. I’ve heard of a couple studies with cancer patients with depression or terminally I’ll patients. Also subjects with alcoholism.

You can grow mushrooms for personal use. In that case you need to know how. If you are in the US chances are it was on last week’s ballot. That’s how most microdosers do it. Obviously you could buy it illegally but they have also been decriminalized in many cities that means police won’t arrest you even if the feds say it is illegal

not sure on status but MDMA is going to be approved by the FDA for PTSD. Doctors can go off label so I imagine other patients will have the option in a few years.

i just lost a relationship because of drugs like this she would disappear for days so i left i loved that person

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BeeBee50 in reply to

so sorry for your loss, the demon drugs have took many of the people I knew, and some who I thought would never touch them 😔

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NickieLane in reply to

so sorry same here

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still hurts i miss u

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NickieLane in reply to

I dated a guy that would disappear and then come home. Every month I had to take him to a mental hospital for drugs and alcohol. He would come and disappear again. He just found me on Facebook and wants to see me but even though he stopped drinking he is doing street drugs. I have severe anxiety and depression and I can’t be around someone because it just makes me anxious.

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designguy

I did 4 ketamine infusions last year and did not find it helpful at all. If I had not had a lot of experience dealing with anxiety it would have caused a lot of it and possibly panic attacks. The only value I can see is that it can let you have a spiritual experience to see and understand that we are all connected and are truly spiritual beings but I didn't need ketamine to do that. It possibly wasn't helpful for me because ketamine is supposedly primarily for treatment resistant depression which I don't have but it supposedly is good for social anxiety & c-ptsd of which I have. It's also very expensive ($500. per infusion) and not covered by insurance. It was also very physically draining and my wife had to take me and pick me up because you can't drive after doing it.

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BeeBee50

pregablin is used now to get high!! Sorry peeps for rambling on, its something I'm passionate about as I work with young offenders between 11 and 15 and its horrible to see them as runners for the dealers....

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akbj in reply to BeeBee50

People use that stuff to get high? Yikes. I was prescribed it for chronic pain & developed awful hallucinations. Ended up in the hospital & a bunch of tests. I think many people with chronic pain are prescribed this stuff but I hated it plus it certainly didn't help.

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BeeBee50 in reply to akbj

I was offered £20 for my monthly script for arthritis!! No way thankfully I'm not on it now but stronger stuff!! Any drug addict will burn anything on a spoon as its straight into the blood stream 😪

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Blueruth in reply to BeeBee50

your conflating illegal off label use with legitimate studies. The broad conversation is about finding out if they work and reversing a political driven policy that prevented over *60* years of research.

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Barleythere

I have heard of it, yes. It is also in a controlled environment with well trained psychiatrist and psychologist in that field of study, it isn't beneficial at all without that kind of environment.

Hallucinogenic therapy can be really dangerous if done too much or in the wrong environment without trained Dr's.

As with all medication it does have side effects and the risk of every other mental health medicine out there.

There was a man named Timothy Leary that came up with this study a very long time ago though. It is very interesting to look at.

It also shows the dangers of doing hallucinogens as it changes and alters your brain chemistry forever in just one session or time you take it. You will never look at things the same way you did before. Could be a good thing, could be a bad thing.

A lot of mental health drugs alter your brain chemistry it just takes time.

You will however, with all drugs, still have anxiety and depression once you stop or later on down the road.

In this post I am writing, this in my case. I'm not speaking for everyone. I'm not a Dr.

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Blueruth in reply to Barleythere

common sense reply. Yes I think the study of this is important. I saw that one which is very pro. There is another on nova that talks about different studies

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Daveacr1959

I have only seen it used in a documentary on Netflix. And it was in a supervised medical setting. There was 2 drugs I remember people were getting from the dr. Not together but if you had this you could try this one . Or if you had this you could try the other one. The most popular one in the documentary was the one the kids take at raves . It makes the people all loving to each other and the world. I think Molly is the street name. But I don’t remember the legal name. It was the one they focused on the most. It made many people lay in bed and experience the universe or unconditional love and cry they said. Some people were older 60,s 70,s . This didn’t make sense to me because it makes the kids who take it dance for 12 hours all night and a danger of overheating. The other one was those tiny little mushrooms. And it made the people gently hallucinatine , and feel better when done. It was all done in a medical setting with a nurse or dr. It’s a documentary on Netflix about l s d and a few other drugs if you want to see it. The host is an older bald thin man who tried about 5-6 drugs one at a time.

Something I have been using twice daily for 9 months is cold water therapy. I worked my way from 15 minutes at 65 degrees. To 10 minutes at 34 degrees twice daily vs once daily. You don’t have to go that cold. It helps me with anxiety and depression and ptsd. It produces chemicals in the brain we need on small scale. There is alot of information on cold shower benifits or cold bath or plunge benifits on the internet and you tube . It invigorates you and then it gives you calm almost together. After 9 months, I don’t even flinch going in the cold anymore. My brain is trained to know it’s my friend. I sit in there up to my chin as calm and relaxed as can be, for 3 songs on my phone. 9-11 minutes. But they say you only need 3-4-5 minutes. But it takes 2 minutes to adjust, so I sit in and enjoy it after the adjustment period. I’m bright red when I get out and feel almost like my old self again. Dopamine, adrenaline, norepinephrine adrenaline, or noradrenaline I get that one wrong, endorphins and seratonin are produced in low dose. I call it natures Valium because I have to watch it or I might doze off a few hours later, if I am in a relaxed setting.the first 2 weeks are rough but then you crave it. Exhale slowly and deeply is all you need to do. Start at 70 degrees and work your way down 2-4 degrees per week. Don’t be phanantical about a couple degrees. Your body says easy enough I did 70 degrees 10 minutes all last week. 66-67 degrees is the same. There are 2 million people doing it worldwide, and remember 3-5 minutes is enough once you get to 55 degrees and keep going lower. I do 10 because the advanced ones do it , Thanks

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Chancery

No, I haven't, but it sounds like fun. Sign me up.

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faucet

I have heard of people using mushrooms for depression/anxiety. I have never but would be very interested in trying if it was in a controlled dose and I was confidant it was safe as opposed to tying to find it on the black market.

Lin1944 profile image
Lin1944

Hi, I saw a program on U.K. Tv last year about mAgic mushrooms helping depression. They were trialling it in a London Hospital so it was with Doctors present. I asked my GP about it and he had never heard of it!! I am now on 2 anti depressants taken together and they are working well.Venlafaxine and Mirtazapine.

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bowJim in reply to Lin1944

venlafaxine slow release has worked for me too.

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bowJim

I have seen recent studies of psychedelics, was a documenty on the TV in the Uk not so long ago, a person I am fond of listening to is Bessell van de Kolk, I believe he has a video on YouTube talking about therapies and I think he say in one of them that psychedlics is the only or best therapy. For me my understanding is how this is adminstered.

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Adlon57

Another one to the melting pot, a while later, they find bad reactions to it, I don't want to vote, very hit and miss!

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MisterWonderful

well, i did several hundred acid trips, meet with Timothy Leary snd even lived in his laboratory outside Cuernavaca mexico. Ate enough mushrooms to be come conversant with the mystical " mushroom, " people.

Knowca lot sbout altered states of consciousness and mental communucation and cintrol..

Never liked peyote though.

Drugs are part of life

If you are a mess they make your life messier

Dont do them if you dont understand what you want ir need from them...

Yes, my neighbor's wife who suffers from severe depression underwent about six sessions a few years ago and it has completely changed her life. I believe she was treated with psilocybin. The only problem was financial, after six sessions it cost them tons of money because this treatment is not currently covered by insurance. I've done extensive research and have found other treatments as well as psilocybin to work extremely effectively but cost makes it a prohibitive treatment for many