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Has Mr Bounce really lost the plot this time? A Smartwatch for £20 THAT works for AFibbers. There has to be a catch

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Hi HUC.

There's no catch. It was the best 20 quid I ever spent on a watch for us AFibbers (I bought mine from my local supermarket).

Buckle up - Here is my review. This is based on my personal use of the watch and my experience of using it so far.

The watch is called Watch Pro IP68 (powered by Intech). It's an all-singing all-dancing watch and even makes you a cup of coffee in the morning and does the washing up (OK - Slight exaggeration there!).

Cost £20.

The IP68 can do BT calling and has multi-sports modes and a virtual assistant. However, I'm not interested in the virtual assistant and the AI telling me off all the time if I sit down for an hour (it tells you to get up and walk about) or if I haven't completed my 10,000 steps for the day. I don't want to use it to make telephone calls. I've turned the AI off.

What I am interested in are the other features it has to help monitor my AFib.

Where to start? HR is a good place to kick off. The watch is a touch screen and at the touch of the screen, you get an instant reading of your HR. It's not like using an arm monitor where your HR rate likely goes up anyway if you are anxious about taking it. You don't have time to worry about it. It monitors your HR 24/7. Every morning you can check the app (more about that later) and see the last 24 hours' highs and lows and the exact time it happened. Yesterday my HR was between 63 BPM low and a high of 85 BPM. You can set the watch to alert you if your HR hits certain highs or lows. I go for a low of 55 and a high of 125 BPM. It's pretty accurate - only once did it get it wildly wrong. It was 20 BPM too high. All the other readings have been spot on.

But wait - there's more to come.

The watch reads your BP - again at the touch of a button. Now I haven't found this feature to be entirely accurate. However, I don't like a tight-fitting watch and wear it loose. I like to be able to put my forefinger between the watch and my wrist. Maybe if I tighten it for a BP reading it would be accurate.

The sleep mode is excellent. It tells you what time you fell asleep and what time you woke up. It tells you how much REM sleep you have had, how much light sleep you have had and how much restful sleep you have had. The watch tells you if you woke up during the night. It's all on a graph with the times of all the above. Last night I woke up for a pee. The watch told me the exact time I did so and was spot on. It told me how long I was awake for and what time I got back to sleep. It tells you how long you slept (last night I slept for 5 hours and 28 minutes. 2 hours and 19 minutes of that were REM Sleep. My Sleep Quality Score was 79 which is in the good band. It has a 4 rating for sleep - Poor/Secondary/Good/Excellent.

The number of steps you take every day seems pretty accurate. The distance walked is slightly out by about 0.2 of a kilometre. I checked this on Google Maps to see the distance to my local shop. The watch was a little higher than Google's estimate. In fairness though it wasn't connected to a smartphone at the time - Theres a good chance it would have been spot on if it was connected.

The Blood Oxygen reading is spot on too. ATM mine is 97% out of 100. No worries there.

My weight right now is 75.1 Kg. Put your weight and height in and it tells you your BMI. Currently, mine is 22.7 - Perfect. I can put on a few pounds and not have to worry about it.

It gets better still.

These are the different modes on the watch:

Activity: This tells you how many steps you have taken and how many calories you have burnt off during the day.

Sleep: As above.

Heart Rate: As above.

Phone Call: I'm not interested in making phone calls using my watch. This feature is turned off.

Exercise: Walking Mode/ Running Mode/Cycling Mode/Skipping Mode/Badminton Mode/Basketball Mode/Football Mode/Swimming Mode/Climbing Mode/Tennis Mode/Rugby Mode/Golf Mode/Yoga Mode/Fitness Mode***/Dancing Mode/Baseball Mode/Elliptical Mode/Indoor Cycling Mode/Free Training Mode/Rowing Machine Mode/ Relaxation - if you are stressed or restful.

You set an 'Open Goal' for all these activities. If you have the AL switched on it sends a message to your watch to let you know it needs completing.

***For me the fitness mode is the most useful. It tells me how long I have worked out and how many calories I have lost during the workout. It also monitors my HR during my exercises. If it goes to high it's time to take a rest. 120 bpm during a workout is enough for me. At that point, I would stop.

It also tells you the weather and temperature outside when connected to your phone. It uses Google to do this and is very accurate. There is also a flashlight on the watch - useful if it is dark and you're trying to get your key in the door. Handy for a power cut too.

All of these features can be saved to favourites. You simply swipe the screen and they are all there at the touch of a button.

I suggest turning off the motion detector as this turns the watch on if you move your arm and will drain the battery. Talking of which the battery life is excellent. I've had it for a couple of weeks and only had to charge it once. The charger is included with the watch and you'll need a standard 5-volt phone charger to plug it into.

You can even play a game on it.

You'll need to get the app from Google Play Store. It is called 'Da Fit' and is free. Download it to your phone or computer and you'll be good to go.

I've used a Fitbit watch in the past but this is far better and much cheaper too.

So where can get this modern-day wonder of technology from? I bought mine from my local shop Morrisons. They had a large display by the checkout - You know the type of thing. Impulse buy - Like sweets by the checkout to appeal to kids. Mom, can I have some chocolate? NO, you can't. I give you a smacked bottom instead if you ask again. That's what my mother used to say to me but you can't say it these days. Anyway, I digress.

If you don't have a Morrisons close by you can order one from Amazon or eBay for £19.99p. I would suggest not using eBay as many electrical goods on there are fakes. Amazon is your best bet, Just go to Amazon and put in 'Watch Pro in tech' in the search box. Make sure you pick the right model. I think it's the only one for sale for £19.99. There are a few sellers to choose from. Saying that I would just pick one up from Morrisons if there's a store close to you. Keep the receipt just in case you need to return it.

Just one more thing before I finish this post. The watch works well for me but I make no promises it will work for you. If not give it to your child/grandchild to play with - they will love messing about with it. It takes photos and all types of stuff.

Oh yeah. I almost forgot - You can just use it as a watch and it keeps good time. It will take a day or so to fathom it all out and personalise the settings for your requirements.

Paul

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jeanjeannie50

Wow that watch sounds amazing Paul . I will get one. Take care because all the naysayers will be saying you're a salesman for them and your post will get removed. I'm going to copy it quickly now.

Thank you for sharing this.

Jean

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Paulbounce in reply tojeanjeannie50

Heheh Jean. You are proberly right! However, its a recommendation from my personal use - nothing else. I don't make anything out of it and just thought it might be of help to forum members.

I know what you mean about the naysayers though! Remember my post 'buy me a coffee'. It was reported by a number of people who thought I was asking them to buy ME a coffee. The post made it very clear it was for small donations directly to the AFA.

Such is life.

Enjoy your weekend Jean.

Paul

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JOY2THEWORLD49 in reply toPaulbounce

Hi

I couldn't open your statement. So I found that I could open it after your name lower down.

So I am here looking at the 15 replies.

cheri JOY

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Paulbounce in reply toJOY2THEWORLD49

OK Joy. Enjoy your day.

Paul

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BobDVolunteer

If it wasnt you Paul I would report this as advertising. LOL😂 No matter I 'm glad if you find it useful but I wont be buying anything like it anyway. You know my views.

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Paulbounce in reply toBobD

Sure Bob. I understand these devices are not suitable for everyone. This works in the back ground 24/7 though so doesn't cause anxiety in the same way as other montoring devices might.

Enjoy your day mate.

Paul

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lawli56

I bought one as I think this would be really good for my insomnia and sleep apnoea as well as my afib. I often have trouble falling asleep and sleeping more than 5-6 hours plus occasionally fall asleep early in the evening. So it would be good to monitor this more closely than my cpap machine does especially the O2 levels. I also want to monitor how frequently I get afib as I often don't feel it but get breathless.

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Paulbounce in reply tolawli56

Hi Lawli.

It sounds like a good fit for you. The O2 seems to very accurate. Just one thing I should have added about the sleep monitoring. It did get it wrong once but the rest of the time it was correct. Also that mode doesn't kick in during the day. If I have an hours kip in the afternoon it doesn't clock it. I think it is timed to just work at night. You will know right away if you are in AFib. My HR sometimes varies by about 5 to 10 bpm per minutes when taking a reading. I expect this and it doesn't bother at all. Its nice to be aware of it though so I can tell my Cardio.

That's if I ever get to see him! He seems to be holiday most of of the time. Still, I have my plans for the best way to move forward with my AFib. It doesn't include him although he's a nice enough guy.

Paul

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lawli56 in reply toPaulbounce

I got diagnosed with afib as an emergency with an hr of 187. I wasn't feeling very well, was very breathless and thought I was going to pass out so pressed my careline alert. At no time did I feel my heart racing. Very scary situation expecially when they starting saying they were going to do an ablation if it didn't start to slow down soon. Fortunately it did. I normally have a hr below 60 otherwise know as bradycardia, lowest recorded 44. Told I might need a pacemaker in the future as well so an additional reason I want to keep an eye on it.

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Paulbounce in reply tolawli56

Hi Lawli.

There's not that much involved to having a pacemaker inserted. Most forum members report a positive outcome as a result. In fact from memory I can't recall anyone who reqreted having one fitted.

Paul

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lawli56 in reply toPaulbounce

Yes I know, I'm not worried about it. Since I stopped drinking caffeinated coffee it's improved and is generally around 50-52 at rest now. I'm turning into a cyborg anyway what with pins and plates in my arm, a soon to be new hip and possibly a knee and maybe the pacemaker. 😄

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Paulbounce in reply tolawli56

Hi Lawli.

50 - 52 bpm at rest is OK.

Turning into a Cyborg is a good idea these days with modern tech advancing as quickly as it is.

Way to go. A non-Caffeinated Cyborg. You could be on to something with this one lolz.

Paul

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JOY2THEWORLD49 in reply toPaulbounce

Hi

I only need my BP micolife BP monitor.

Yesterday we had a brilliant discussion about AI.

A very good question was charging. The guy said that his clients are told x amount using AI and rest by us. He pointed out that he charges by his hourly rate. (Consultant-Rngineer or Architect)

cheri JOY

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Paulbounce in reply toJOY2THEWORLD49

Sure Joy. AI can be of great benefit to business. The downside is some people will lose their jobs because of it.

Paul

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Buffafly

I have a similar watch, also bargain price, not quite so good. My only concern is that it is Chinese and I do worry a bit about what info is being collected 🤔

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Paulbounce in reply toBuffafly

Hi Buff.

Yes data hacking is a major problem today - Amazon are the worst. It's said if you use Alexa they can listen to your conversations! I never access my emails from Alexa. I don't want them to know my login password and read all my emails. They will I can assure you - it's all done by a computer so they can target adverts to appeal to your personal needs. I think Google Chrome is the same.

Paul

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fairgo45 in reply toPaulbounce

Really Paul Alexa is listening to our conversations well I'm damed then as I have it it 3 rooms good job we don't do anything dodgy Regarding the watch a very good review bu i can't find it on Amazon at that price can you clarify the make exactly

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Paulbounce in reply tofairgo45

Good morning Fair.

Yep. It's true about Amazon spying you. I make sure I don't ever put passwords or personal information on my Alexa tablet.

I'll DM you the link where you can find the watch on Amazon.

Happy Sunday.

Paul

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JaneChapple in reply toPaulbounce

Hi Paul

Very interesting about Morrison's doing them. My local one doesnt appear to (Exeter). I have a small wrist so it might be too big for me? Any way could you DM me the link please?

Thank you.

Janexxx😊❤️

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Paulbounce in reply toJaneChapple

Sure Jane. I'll DM you now.

Rgds Paul

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lawli56 in reply tofairgo45

I think you're pretty safe so long as you don't mention any terroristic words like bombs, disposing of your mother in law or you bank account/payment details. 😊

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bean_counter27

IP68 is likely to be the watch's dust and water protection rating rather than part of the watch's name or model number.I'm glad you are pleased with your purchase. However, having had numerous smart watches and fitness trackers over the years, it sounds too good to be true i.e. cheap, functionally rich and accurate.

However if near enough is good enough and not being relied upon for medical reasons e.g. accurate blood pressure monitoring then your watch might be a cost effective option for some.

Caveat emptor.

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Paulbounce

Hi Bean.

I agree - it is buyer beware when using such devices. It may not be for everyone which is why I said in my OP that it works for me but it may not work for you. Any real concerns about a heart condition should be checked by a doctor, not a watch. It's very important to not rely on it for medical reasons.

As for it sounding too good to be true. I also thought the same at that price. I didn't buy one at first as I thought 'nah' it would be a waste of money. However, while I was waiting to pay at checkout one day I just picked one up and put it in my basket. I didn't have a watch and thought at the very least I'd be able to tell the time instead of checking my phone to find out what it was. So far it's delivered on all its promises. If that changes I'll update the thread.

The name is Watch Pro In-Tech on the box. I have put a photo on so if someone does buy it they get the right one.

Paul

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fairgo45

Ok I should've scrolled further I've found it now

mav7 profile image
mav7

Paulbounce Nice review, Paul.

Have you compared the accuracy of the heart rate with other devices you may have ? (Kardia, digital HRM, etc).

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Paulbounce

Good morning Mav.

Yes! I've compared it by taking HR measurements at the same time as using my Boot's wrist monitor. I know that is right on the ball and very accurate. They always give the same reading. May a few bpm difference but this is to be expected in AFib as they don't finish the reading at exactly the same moment.

Paul

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mav7 in reply toPaulbounce

Thanks for the detailed reply.

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50568789

Glad you had a good experience. I bought a fifty quid one on Amazon with similar features. Unfortunately the key readings for me (BP, HR, blood oxygen) are not even close to my cuff monitor and oximeter. It also claimed to measure blood glucose - again, wildly inaccurate especially for a diabetic like me, in fact I've since read there's no way these things can measure blood glucose anyway. It also does an ECG - ha ha. Cheap Chinese crap, currently gathering dust in a drawer.

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Paulbounce in reply to50568789

Sure 505. I fully understand - I too have been stung in the past with devices that were not accurate at all. I kept the receipts and got a refund when I returned them to the shop.

Paul

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Tellingfibs

Hi Paul. I’m a bit reticent as I bought a similar watch - well with similar claims - and was useless. I was most interested in the sleep, but it was hopeless; it seemed like guesswork ! If I went to bed at 11 and read for an hour, it would say I was sleeping for that hour, and even then get the time wrong. However, for £20 I fancy giving this watch you recommend a go. What I’d like to know is what sort of strap does it have ? I could change it if unsuitable but with that other wretched watch, it was a strange fitting and getting a new strap fitted costs almost as much as the watch !

Annie

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Paulbounce in reply toTellingfibs

Hi Telling.

It's a plastic strap with 16 holes. It would fit on Arnold Schwarzenegger's wrist or a small childs wrist.

I too have had bad experiences with these sort of watches in the past.

Regarding the sleep mode. It got it totally wrong one night. The rest have been OK. Spot on in fact. I go to sleep right away when I go to bed. I can't promise it won't count your reading time as sleep if you are lying down. However, it should clock it as being awake and record this. Check what time you stop reading and work it from there. It's all shown on the graph anyway with the exact times you fell asleep and the exact time you wake up.

Enjoy your evening.

Paul

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Tellingfibs in reply toPaulbounce

Thanks Paul, useful to know about the strap !

Annie

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Rockcake

hi Paulbounce, thank you for this and for such a long explanation. I hope to buy one - worth it even if I only use it for my heart rate and b/p.

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Paulbounce in reply toRockcake

Good luck Rockcake. As I said in my OP you'll likely need to tighten the strap to ensure an accurate BP reading. The HR reading is very accurate.

Rgds Paul

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Redders

oh sounds too complicated for me,I’m not very good with technical thinks. I might try one though as it’s only £20.

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Paulbounce in reply toRedders

Nah, Redders. You'll soon pick up how to use it. It might take a few days but you'll get there😉

Paul

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TillyBoss

Does it tell you when you are in a fib?

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Rose8950 in reply toTillyBoss

I have an Apple Watch. I couldn’t live without it since I have Afib. It tells n

Me when I’m in Afib (using the ECG) and when the episode is over and I can go back to sleep. Via pulse , I can check the range of pulse during the night. I where it to bed every night, my security device. It will also alert me if my heart is too fast or to slow for 19 minutes +. Totally worth the money.

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TillyBoss in reply toRose8950

My fitbit battery lasts a week and a few days is it the same with apple? I have an ecg facility but you have to press sides to get it I was wondering if there was a watch that tells when it occurs automatically?

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Rose8950 in reply toTillyBoss

Yes the Apple Watch will tell you when it occurs automatically and keeps all your Afib episodes on your smart phone. Battery lasts up to 24 hours but it takes minutes to re charge. When I see my GP I can show him all the statistics of each episodes .

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TillyBoss in reply toRose8950

Good to know thanks

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Paulbounce in reply toTillyBoss

Hi Tilly.

No. It doesn't tell you if you are in AFib. However, it's easy to clock it on the watch. Just do a few measurements and you'll easily tell if your HR is up and down all the time. Mine is and a single reading often shows up to ten bpm difference = equals AFib. A steady reading suggests you are in sinus. It records your average HR during the day with all the times etc. Today mine went up to 108 bpm. I checked the time shown on the graph and it was during my walk - no worries with that one. If your HR goes too high you'll know the exact time it occurred and how long for. Knowing the time (you may have been unaware of it when it happened) is very useful and can help identify possible triggers ie after eating a big meal or having a drink or two.

Paul

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TillyBoss in reply toPaulbounce

Ahhh

MWIC profile image
MWIC

Interesting Paul - thanks for the info - I’m a fan of tech and the insights into “what’s going on” it helps to bring - I may in fact just try one of these based on your review here - £20 brilliant! Does it do much in the area of AFib itself - not too worried if it doesn’t tbh as the tracking of sleep, HR, Heart-rate are enough to warrant checking this out for

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Paulbounce in reply toMWIC

Hi MWIC.

It doesn't tell you if you are in AFib. It's very easy to check it on the watch though. The daily graph tell you what your HR has been during the day with the times etc. If it's steady most of the day and shots for an an hour or so it's likely to be a result of AFib. Unless of course you are doing a workout or taking a fast walk. I will just say it's not a replacement for your doctor. If you have any concerns it's always best to speak to a medic.

Rgds Paul

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DiyChas

In Canada, I believe it is called VRPEFIT and it is $60. Seems to have the same features/functions.I won't buy it until I see reviews from others here.

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Paulbounce in reply toDiyChas

Hi Chas.

That's a different watch. This is the one I use.

Paul

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DiyChas in reply toPaulbounce

Paul, what country are you in and who makes it?

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mav7 in reply toDiyChas

May also want to check Amazon reviews with an open mind . Not endorsing, but there are a great spectrum of reviews.

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DiyChas in reply tomav7

As with all things new, I find it best to wait a while until there is competition. I also read many reviews of any product I am interested it.

It is also important to understand the return policy prior to purchase.

Not that I am promoting Amazon in particular but I have made well prefer 1,000 Amazon purchases including a high performance laptop and a 75" tv.

At my age, the last thing I want to do is comparison shopping via automobile.

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ozziebob

I can only find your watch advertised online at £12 including postage. Can you post a link to where I can buy it for £20! Thanks. 😆

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Paulbounce in reply toozziebob

Hi Bob.

I'll DM you a link now.

Rgds Paul

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Kimmieblue

Thank you for this Paul, really interesting, I'll have a look in Morrisons.Best wishes.

K.

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