personal Choice

[DawnTX]

I am not sure what was removed my reply or his comment. Vaccines are a personal choice no matter what type of vaccine it is.

[PlanetaryKim]

Agree.

[Thomas45]

I believe that we all have a moral duty to reduce as far as is possible our need for medical treatment, so I willingly had the Polio vaccine, and the TB jab when I visited regularly, for work, a TB hospital.There is no vaccine against asthma, because it is caused in many ways, but we have a duty to avoid, as far as is possible known allergens, e.g. smoking.

I also believe that those who partake in dangerous sports should take out additional health insurance.

It's difficult to generalise, as different health systems occur in the the countries of the poster, DawnTX , of the USA, and the first comment by PlanetaryKim, of Canada, and me of the UK.

As someone who has chronic, i.e. long-term asthma, 49 years of it, and chronic AF, 29 years, I do all I can to avoid ill health, not just for my own sake, but also for the rest of the residents of my country.

Sometimes, such as 13 days ago, I need to use the emergency service. In that case only the 3rd time in 49 years of asthma, due to an unknown allergen, which reduced my ability to breathe. I suspect it was stale tobacco smoke on the clothes of a visitor. It was soon dealt with at hospital and I was discharged after 14 hours.

[jeanjeannie50]

I'm not too sure what you're talking about Dawn.

Jean

[terryw]

HiDawnTX. I agree. No one has mentioned the speed at which these vaccines were produced. They were a game changer. Governments were not prepared for a pandemic. In the last couple of decade we have had Mers, Sars, Ebola, Swine Flu, Bird Flu and Covid. I would be more interested in knowing what the World is doing to prepare for the next one. TerryW

[DawnTX in reply to terryw]

Hi Terry, without getting political etc. I’m not sure I will ever trust things again like we once could. You were right about how fast this came up but I have 1 million questions about all of it. Never before did I question shots and boosters and antibiotics for myself or my daughter. Perhaps people that will not get the shots or boosters should be quarantined. Unfortunately, there is no one to patrol any of us in the states. I believe I caught it from hotel staff where I was living at the time. One girl told me she was positive and was back at the desk the next day. How many others needed their job enough to do that? Meanwhile, I was having a fit and trouble walking and was told if I had Covid I would have to leave the hotel. I did not have Covid at the time. Where was I to go? I had moved and was waiting to close on a house. Are there any right or wrong answers anymore? When the fox is guarding henhouse who knows.

[Ppiman]

I missed your thread Dawn and in general I fully agree with you. However, I do sometimes wonder whether John Donne’s famous line that “no man is an island” isn’t a worthy idea and that there must be occasions when the freedom of others must be a cause for a restriction on individual freedom.

To stay with the literary allusions, Atwood wrote in her excellent novel, A Handmaid’s Tale, there are two kinds of freedom, freedom from and freedom to. To allow others freedom, don’t we sometimes have to accept a reduction of our own freedom? It’s a thought that appeals to me.

Whether this applies today to covid-19 vaccinations is another question now that we know so much more than we did in this frightening and bleak days of the early pandemic.

Steve