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LKUK
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hello. Wanted to post some positive news from me. I went into AF in September 2021. Had a cardio version on Nov 21 and have been in SR since. But was very frequently having rapid heart rate and lots of fluttering/odd beats. And bouts of breathlessness and extreme fatigue. Through reading in this group I recently started to experiment with my diet. Two things have come out of this. Firstly by cutting out decaf coffee (and other caffeine sources) my heart is much more stable. Was surprised as I assumed decaf was decaf! But apparently still has caffeine and that was leading too ectopic beats. Second thing I have done is take out diary. And that’s really helped my chest clear. Much less phlegm. So overall I am feeling much better and more optimistic that my health will continue to improve. I would encourage food experimentation.

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sassy59 profile image
sassy59

That’s really good news for you and pleased you’re feeling better. I use decaf coffee and tea with no problem but mainly drink water. I use Oat milk too.

Take care

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jeanjeannie50

I use decaf coffee and tea, but you've got me wondering if that's a good idea now. I remember years ago getting a drink from the health shop called Barley cup, may try that now.

I use lactose free milk, but may think about replacing that.

Jean

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LKUK in reply to jeanjeannie50

I was surprised by the difference when I cut caffeine out completely. A life time of coffee drinking made it a challenge. Good luck.

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jeanjeannie50 in reply to LKUK

What do you use instead of milk? I'm looking for an alternative?

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LKUK in reply to jeanjeannie50

I use soya milk but to be honest I have pretty much moved to herbal teas only. Very few hot drinks with milk now.

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Vonnegut in reply to LKUK

We have had herbal teas only for many years now - lemon balm and other herbs from the garden now and no coffee for ages or alcohol since my diagnosis though I never had much but haven’t missed it!

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jeanjeannie50 in reply to LKUK

That's a good idea. I like the Pukka peppermint and licorice tea, must get some more. Just fished out a packet of three mint tea and use by date is 01.2022. do you buy your tea loose or in bags? Is there one you would recommend?

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LKUK in reply to jeanjeannie50

I love the Lemon Zinger. It’s lemon and ginger. But I also make it fresh: half a lemon and a few slices of fresh ginger. Delicious.

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Vonnegut in reply to jeanjeannie50

We like the lemon and ginger but I think it comes in bags - think ginger is supposed to be good for us.

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LKUK in reply to Vonnegut

I think it’s good for us too. I use the lemon zinger bags or I make fresh. I also like peppermint. I also get loose mixed berry tea too, especially with cinnamon- great in the winter.

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Blackscottiedog in reply to jeanjeannie50

I think that liquorice can cause raised blood pressure and too much can lower potassium levels. I used to enjoy a liquorice and blackcurrant herbal tea but I stopped drinking it when I read about this.

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LKUK in reply to Blackscottiedog

good to know although personally I never touch licorice. Hate that taste!

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MummaSoap in reply to jeanjeannie50

My daughter is dairy intolerant and she has oat milk. When I was feeding her, I went dairy free for her and I actually prefer oat milk in my odd coffee now to regular milk.

Also rice milk is brilliant for making things like mashed potato or sauces.

Flora do a plant butter which tastes very similar to packet butter. Also for cooking with, sheese (I think that’s what it’s called) is nice for cooking with - I used to have sheese “cheese” scones.

The only downside for me being slim was that I struggled to keep my weight in a healthy range whilst I was dairy free but since resuming dairy in my diet, I’ve put on (and kept) half a stone 👍🏻

Good luck if you decide to venture into the world of dairy free 😁

Best wishes

Soap 🧼

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LKUK in reply to MummaSoap

thanks I was thinking about cheese alternatives. Have been having a small amount of cheddar every now and then and chocolate and both make my cough come back. So giving those a miss is the next step - both hard ones to let go for me.

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RoyMacDonald in reply to jeanjeannie50

Hi Jean, I use Biona Organic Coconut Milk. Absolutely delicious. Tastes how cream should in my imagination. None of the horrid aftertaste like the stuff they make from cows. I drink a can of Biona Organic Coconut Milk every day now. It's cheapest from Dolphin Fitness.

All the best.

Roy

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Vonnegut

Presume you cut out dairy rather than diary as you wrote! I gave up dairy after I breastfed my children when babies and came to realise as my milk was for them cows milk was for their babies-

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LKUK in reply to Vonnegut

yes cow products. But as a dyslexic I’m lucky I got the sentences down at all.

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Vonnegut in reply to LKUK

You are doing brilliantly then! What a pain to have dyslexia now when so much is based on printed words. Are you good at art? I’ve heard it often goes together. Sorry, my degree was in Psychology so it is of interest.

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LKUK in reply to Vonnegut

I’m not troubled by it at all. I have a doctorate in quantum mechanics so it hasn’t held me back and spell checkers help so much. But the computer didn’t spot the diary/dairy thing. I think it’s quite important to talk about neurodiverse experiences.

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Vonnegut in reply to LKUK

Too right - we are all different and you sound amazing!

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Qualipop in reply to LKUK

My son's severely dyslexic yet oddly he can always recognise when words are spelled wrongly and he reads so fast I can't keep up with him. He simply can't spell and misses out numerous words because his brain goes too fast to get them all down yet he's a brilliant computer programmer. Dyslexia has so many facets. I remember being very surprised and pleased when a man in front of me in a queue for an amusement park, turned to ask if he was in the correct queue because he couldn't read. It was years ago when dyslexia wasn't well understood so I thought he was really brave.

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Vonnegut

and they are both vegan now but must admit my husband and I have a little oily fish which I understand is good for us!

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LKUK in reply to Vonnegut

I’m trying to do more plant based.

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Vonnegut

Good luck - with it- if you have a doctorate in quantum mechanics you can achieve anything!

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LKUK in reply to Vonnegut

thank you. I just find maths easier than writing. But I’m rubbish at art 🙄

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Vonnegut in reply to LKUK

We are all different and you are amazing!

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pusillanimous

We are all different. I never drink milk, but love plain full cream yoghurt which I had a tendency to pile onto a chopped banana for breakfast. I never drink milk, I have reduced my cheese consumption, which was excessive, considerably. My single cup of coffee consists of half a teaspoon of decaf and half a teaspoon of mild blend, plus a teaspoon of coffee creamer. I reduced my sugar intake to a small portion of ice cream and jelly for pudding. I took these measures to try to reduce foot swelling. My Cardio removed Verapamil from my regimen and I do not have heart failure., my EF is 60. If anything ,these measures increased my mucous production and did nothing for my feet which are normal in the morning but swollen, particularly the tops of my feet in the evening. The odd thing is ,and my GP does not know why, is that whenever I have an anti-biotic (which I had recently after injuring my foot) the swelling disappears for about 2 weeks , and then starts up again. I don't know if anyone has any suggestions as to what tests, treatment or whatever, I should have investigated next. I have mild COPD (Asthma and chronic bronchitis). I have a cupboard full of lovely shoes I want to wear !!!!!

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LKUK in reply to pusillanimous

I’m really missing Greek yoghurt the most of the dairy as like you I had it for breakfast with fruit. The yogurt alternatives I’ve tried have been pretty awful so far. I also get swollen ankles towards the end of the day, especially if sitting at my desk too long. I’m on a water tablet but not sure it does that much (apart from make me pee).

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pusillanimous in reply to LKUK

I also take a Spiractin tablet (Cardio says it's potassium sparing) but I certainly don't pee excessively - I hardly touch salt and apart from my one cup of coffee in the morning, I only drink boiled water ! (after it's been in the fridge). Although my problem is minor compared with what other people suffer, I really would like it solved, especially the reaction to anti-biotics - maybe a vascular surgeon next!!!!

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LKUK in reply to pusillanimous

I hear you about the shoes!

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Dudtbin

i am so lucky to still be able to drink coffee, only 1 or 2 a day, then green tea or chamomile and at night a TikTok bedtime tea. Done this for years. I find the herbal teas quite expensive now

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LKUK in reply to Dudtbin

I think everything is quite expensive now.

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Snowgirl65

Bravo for you. It's always good to hear forum participants' strategies, what does and doesn't work for them.

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Jetcat

nice bit of information.👍 I’m always interested in what works for others then I can give it a go myself.👍

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