THE EXTREME FATIGUE HAS KICKED IN AFTER COVID!

[Desanthony]

Wow! I was warned that there would be some fatigue but after just doing a few light things in the garden yesterday I am totally wiped out today. Still its a good reason to go out in the garden and just sit there and enjoy it today. I don't feel too bad just the fatique. Still have a fairly bad cough lingering on.

[sassy59]

We both have a lingering cough and fatigue too. Pete has COPD so is on antibiotics but still bringing up horrible green mucus. It’s wearing the poor man down but he’ll get there.

Wishing you well. X

[Desanthony in reply to sassy59]

Thank you. We have quite clear mucus still so no sign of infection. Hope Pete is better soon.

[sassy59 in reply to Desanthony]

Pleased you have no infection. Pete is getting better each day. Thank you.

[Desanthony in reply to sassy59]

That's good to hear. x

[DawnTX]

I had Covid last March and I think the first bad part was the headache, and then the cough. Yes, and then the fatigue that luckily I was able to just give into and sleep. Honestly, I did not find it any worse than when I have had the flu. They are all miserable to have. Feel better just let your body recover.

[Desanthony in reply to DawnTX]

The actual illness part was no worse than a heavy cold but the fatigue is worse for us. Maybe its our age

[Singwell]

Getting that vitamin D will help! Nothing wrong with sitting out under a blanket if needed. But taking supplements such as D3 with Vitamin K in spray form and B12 in liquid form might also be a good investment.

[Desanthony in reply to Singwell]

Thanks we do take Vit D but not B12 and K will get some if things carry on like this.

[Dippy22]

If not already, get some zinc ASAP! It’s been proven (and is being used by the medical profession) in post COVID therapy. It’ll help to shorten the recovery period.

[Auriculaire in reply to Dippy22]

Zinc is best taken with what is known as a zinc ionophore - something that helps it be absorbed by the cells. Quercetin will work like that. I take Quercetin regularly as a natural anti histamine for hives in winter. The days I take it I take zinc alongside. So far I have not caught the cold and cough my husband caught from his squash partner!

[Dippy22 in reply to Auriculaire]

I too take quercitin (in an attempt to control the AFIB).

Just started reading up on inophores and I tripped across this on a COVID recovery protocol;

“Also, note that you should not take Zinc and Quercetin together as they compete for absorption. Chelated Zinc: 15-30 mg per day. 27 Feb 2023”. 🤔

[Auriculaire in reply to Dippy22]

Usually I take the Quercetin at breakfast and the zinc with dinner . But since I've been taking twice a day to hopefully stave off catching husband's bug I have been taking them together. Better go back to original regime and maybe double the amount. Do you think the Quercetin is having any effect on the afib?

[Dippy22 in reply to Auriculaire]

I did think it spaced the episodes out slightly. Instead of 2-3 a week I’ve dropped to 1-2 a week. Bonus!

I’m also been taking Berberine.

I’ve also got a concoction of natural herbs from a herbalist/functional medicine lady that are good for slowing heart rate, so I’m waiting to see if that helps. Trying desperately to find a ‘fix’ before I have a pace and ablate procedure done on the 27th. 😟. I’m also hammering my GP about my increasingly raised Ferritin levels (gone up again since spine surgery!), but he’s very sceptical (i.e. knows nothing!!) that it has anything to do with causing the irregular heart beat. 🤷‍♀️. It’s like pushing a boulder up hill to get any of them to treat you holistically. 😢

[Auriculaire in reply to Dippy22]

I have been wondering about trying Berberine . How much do you take ?

[Dippy22 in reply to Auriculaire]

I was taking one a day, but have just increased that to two a day and an extra one as a PiP if I get an AF episode. But sad to say I’ve tried that this evening and it hasn’t had any effect yet. Think I’m just gonna have to accept I’ve got an electrical fault. 🫤. I was pretty sure food caused it (especially cream), but was laying on the sofa at 5pm yesterday and off it went and I’d hadn’t eaten anything since lunch. 🤷‍♀️

[Dippy22 in reply to Auriculaire]

Hang on! After the PIP Berberine at 8pm the AF stopped around 9pm. One can only hope! I’ll have to await another episode to try it out again. Watch this space.

[Auriculaire in reply to Dippy22]

What strength are the pills. My attacks usually last between 8 and 12 hours. If I could stop one so quickly that would be great. I can get attacks if I go too long without eating and my blood sugar drops too quickly.

[Dippy22 in reply to Auriculaire]

Sorry! Thought I’d replied about dose, but can’t see it. I’ve been taking 500mg once a day, but on the advice of my herbalist I’ve increased that to 2-3 a day in the past two days. PLUS! she suggested a PIP approach, which I tried for the first time last evening. The AFib stopped an hour later, but I can’t be certain that was because of the berberine.

Crikey, you’re lucky - mine average 20-30 hours. Just completed a 28 hour one. 🫤

[Auriculaire in reply to Dippy22]

Yes I am lucky my afib is not worse but it would be nice to find something that would knock it on the head when it starts. I don't think they prescribe Flecanaide as PIP here in France and I dont fancy taking it everyday . Last year was my worst so far for number of episodes but I still only spent in total about three and a half days in afib.

[Dippy22 in reply to Auriculaire]

Not Flec, it was a Berberine PIP! 😀

Ooh, France eh!?! Nice.

[Auriculaire in reply to Dippy22]

Yes I had grasped that! It's that the only prescription anti arrythmic the cardiologist would probably prescribe would be Flec and I'm not keen on the idea of that so I'd rather give Berberine a go.

[Dippy22 in reply to Auriculaire]

I tried Flec for a couple of months. Totally dehydrated me (living on laxatives!) and when I tried a PIP approach one night to knock out an AFIB episode I had the most dreadful double vision! Frightening!! It didn’t work either. 😟

[Auriculaire in reply to Dippy22]

That's very off putting!

[Desanthony in reply to Dippy22]

Great that's on my shopping list.

[Rainfern]

Avoiding Long Covid is much the same advice as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: Don't push it. Ignore the old NICE advice of graded activity which they have now withdrawn because it was making people worse. Allow a proper convalescence. My husband went back to work too soon after pneumonia/sepsis when he was still fatigued and developed CFS. Don't go there! And get well soon!

[etheral]

Hi, don't know how long ago you contracted Covid, but I came down with it a monthago. I felt really ill for about 2 weeks, but still feel really fatigued. If you're still coughing after several weeks, it might be worth a CXR to rule out pneumonia.

Best wishes to feel well soon

etheral

[Desanthony in reply to etheral]

Funnily enough its two weeks today since we both came down with Covid. It took me two days to write a bunch of Birthday Cards and I missed my great nephew's 30th Birthday because I kept putting the card writing off. Honestly by the time I got the cards together and address book I just felt whacked and had to leave it until the next day.

[mwcf]

I'm a strapping robust specimen (other than familial arrhythmia issues) but my second run in with covid (first in March 2020 was barely noticeable) last October has taken me until now to get over. My throat was awful for 3 weeks. Then the phlegm situation and throat clearing has dragged on and on and I'm still not 100% right even yet. My legs still feel a bit tired with a few flights of stairs in a way they simply didn't before. So annoying and sad to think that his virus was dreamt up a lab.....

[Auriculaire in reply to mwcf]

Did you get vaccinated in between?

[mwcf in reply to Auriculaire]

Yes..... the two AstraZeneca and then one Pfizer booster. (Right or wrong - just personal opinion - I've avoided further boosters - if I was 70+ and had any co-morbitities I'd have had the further boosters.)

[Auriculaire in reply to mwcf]

You do know that every time you get vaccinated you get another round of your body manufacturing the spike protein which is the most toxic bit of the virus ( and the bit that was manipulated in the lab) .? If you were able to throw off the original Wuhan strain with so little problem you had no need to be vaccinated as natural immunity is better ( despite all the lying propaganda that was put out saying it was wasn't). The fact that you were so ill with the milder Omicron strain indicates that the jabs might have damaged your immune system. You might want to look at the FLCCC website that has protocols to help those suffering from long covid or recovering slower.

[MikeyF in reply to Auriculaire]

Yes I had kinda been thinking the same thing. But 90% back to normal now I’m glad to say. To be frank I don’t think I was all that ill last October - mainly the sorest throat I’ve ever had followed by lingering fatigue and ongoing throat clearing for a few months. Never any fever, headache or breathing difficulties. My immune system will recover. It will!! Weird as my partner was really quite ill with the Wuhan strain, then was pretty rough with the Pfizer booster (like me she’s only had one ‘booster’) too, but shrugged off what I had last October. As the Americans are fond of saying…. Go figure!

[Auriculaire in reply to MikeyF]

One of the best supports for your immune system is sunshine! A good vit D level is essential but there are other benefits to sun exposure as well. The infrared provokes melatonin production in the mitochondria and the UVA provokes nitric oxide production. I take NAC - N acetyl cysteine which is good for lung health as well. I have not had any respiratory virus for 7 years ( well not that I have noticed!) I only had one jab - the Janssen which I regret and no boosters.

[mwcf in reply to Auriculaire]

agreed re sunlight - looking forward to some hopefully soon here in the UK!! I have for a few years now taken - and still take - 5000iu D3 per day + K.

[Desanthony in reply to mwcf]

Yes we take high dose Vit D and have for years. We have had 3 good days of sunshine here and been out working in the garden on all 3 days so have got a good dose just recently. Just tested again and my wife has a very faint lower line and so far I have none so looks like I might be clear - at last.

[beach_bum]

Get better soon. It must suck. I am so fortunate that I haven’t contracted covid, the flu or a cold for over 3 years now. I know, that when I eventually get something I will fell like death warmed over. I have been spoiled. Having said that, I am retired and we live out in the country, my wife works from home, and we are both triple vaxxed and when we do go out for groceries, its at a time when the shelves are freshly stocked and the stores are empty. We are fortunate. One of our kids and grandkids live in a very large city, and all of them have had covid several times. Not looking forward to the day when I come down with something.

Stay safe!

[Dippy22 in reply to beach_bum]

Hold the thought that, unlike back in 2020 when it was killing a lot of people, it’s now mutated down to nothing more sinister than the flu or a nasty head cold (the words of a scientist, not mine).

Keep up your Vit C , magnesium and in particular Zinc supplements and hopefully, if you do catch it, you may weather it quite easily. 👍

[Desanthony in reply to beach_bum]

Yes like you both retired and barely go out socially - just shopping but we went to stay with my eldest son as my grandchildren were visiting from Florida and my son's wife caught it from someone who works in the shop with her. All four of us had it but thankfully we didn't send the grandsons back to USA with it. We haven't had a cough or cold in over 4 years either so maybe that's another reason we feel so bad - just not used to it.

[beach_bum in reply to Desanthony]

Ya, not looking forward to the eventuality of getting something, as grandkids are walking Petrie dishes lol. Still loads of COVID cases here in “the colonies” just don’t make the news anymore, because everyone has had and/or vaccinated, so hospitalization and deaths are way down, but caution is still the order of the day, as it is still killing people.

[beach_bum]

I’m a fairly sure I’m healthy enough, and my diet is robust enough that I dont need supplements, according to my doc..to weather a bout of whatever comes my way, but, besides not wanting to be sick because, well it sucks at the best of times, I don’t want to pass it on to family and friends.

Covid almost killed my sister and BIL 2 months ago, so I’m sure it’s not done with us yet.

And a new variant “Kraken” is circulating so keep enjoying life, but prudence while in public would be wise.

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[Desanthony in reply to beach_bum]

Yes we are back wearing masks wherever we go. Our next door neighbour has just had a mastectomy and though we would love to pop in and cheer her up a bit there's no way we are going to until she is a lot better than she is now as that would be the last thing either her and her hubby need just now. My wife messages her every day. We were still testing positive up until our last test on Monday when public health called us to say that as it was over 10 days we were not infectious but still not taking any chances. We may test today or may leave it until after the weekend as we never go anywhere on bank holidays any way. Shopping done early yesterday morning so we are ensconced at home again for a few days in the hope it will make things easier. Going to try to do just one small job a day again so we can achieve something.

[beach_bum in reply to Desanthony]

Yes, sometimes just tucking into a good book, binge watching or trying some new recipes can make it more bearable.

Get well soon.

[Desanthony in reply to beach_bum]

Thank you! Have a lovely weekend.