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Cold 🥶 🧊 water 💧 therapy anyone?

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Hey AF team

Been a while since I posted anything. Quick update all going AF well. AF free for 8 months. Did the same last year. Seem to get a few months of lots of AF converted by PIP (300 mg of flec). Surgical ablation (surgical because of atrial occluder) is still on hold until I press go.

Feeling ok. Fit and well. Anxiety depleted about the condition, although likely because I have long periods of nothing. I know I am lucky.

My question to you helpful lot is, does anyone partake in cold water therapy or swimming? Did some 12 degree plunge pooling last week (without looking up dangers). Can cause tachycardia and arrhythmias due to dropping your body temp. Obviously 🙄 you need to build gradual tolerance.

Keen to hear if anyone does this & if their heart behaves?

Thank you 🙏

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jeanjeannie50 profile image
jeanjeannie50

No fear, not me. I find water too cold to bear in mid summer!

Jalia profile image
Jalia

Not flipping likely! Same as Jean!

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Tommyboy21

I've watched folks do it on the beach while I'm in my down jacket,fleece and thermal t-shirt and I'm still cold. North sea cold enough in summer.

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Autumn_Leaves

I did cold showers for a while but decided the benefit was marginal, if at all. Unless you’re going to go all in with it, there’s probably not much to gain by having wimpy showers anyway.

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jeanjeannie50 in reply to Autumn_Leaves

I did the same as you and tried hard to let the cold water from the shower go on me each day, brrrr it was torture and then I got pneumonia!

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Autumn_Leaves in reply to jeanjeannie50

Oh dear! That’s not exactly a recommendation, is it? 😱I reckon we’re better off concentrating on what’s more likely to help. Those who swear by it are probably living very healthy lifestyles to begin with.

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Pigleywigley in reply to Autumn_Leaves

agree

Actually the podcast I attached shows that benefits can be reached after just 30 seconds! She’s the main researcher in the world. I appreciate it’s not for everyone.

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Autumn_Leaves in reply to Pigleywigley

I’m not against it and some people probably love it. That’s great. But we have to be realistic about what the advantages are. If it feels good then that’s getting something out of it at the very least. Will it give us bulletproof immune systems? Hmm… that’s difficult to ascertain on an individual level.

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etheral

Makes sense from a physiological point of view. You will get a strong sudden vagal reaction which may temporarily convert your afib to nsr. Might be dangerous to someone with CAD. Can't say I've ever tried it myself. etheral

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mjames1

Very cold water could potential trigger an arrhythmia. A friend had his first afib episode after plunging into cold water. I've had a number of episodes triggered by drinking an ice cold beverage. YMMV.

Jim

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mjames1

Just want to add to my previous reply that according to some sources, cold water plunging may have health benefits. Personally, I remember taking morning showers under an ice cold waterfall during while camping at a yoga camp. Never felt better in my life. Of course I was 23 then :) But back to us adults, probably one of those things that may help some but not others and if you do want to chance it, gradually would be the way to go.

Jim

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CDreamer

I used to frequently - I had to learn to swim in a lido and the water temp was freezing - also as a dinghy sailor I got dumped frequently in extremely cold water. I used to swim in the sea, mostly in the summer but these days stick to 10 seconds of cold shower. Always feel much more alive afterwards and never had any problems heart wise - I have though in indoor pools when the temperature was far too high!

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secondtry

Mmmm...it is oh so easy to become complacent during a period of NSR, I am always having to tick myself off for tempting fate. Moderation is my mantra and I am with CDreamer here, most days I have a hot shower then for the last 5 seconds cold....it feels great afterwards, I would love to stay under the cold a tad more but dare not risk it. I tell myself if it feels good then it is boosting my immune system a small amount.

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OzRob

Cold water does not work where I live, daytime outdoor temp is usually between 30 to 35 degrees C (92F) and the shower water is about 26 degress C (78F)!

Brrr...

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Ronnieboy

Up here in the Highlands in the North of Scotland its a daily experience ,this and most winters,its freezing....fortunately I've just sold the house and I'm heading down south Being serious the cold has helped my health,you have to keep active.and keep moving , 20 c +is a hot day for me.

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Autumn_Leaves in reply to Ronnieboy

Conversely, I hate the heat and wish I could escape the dreaded summer heatwaves. 3 months in the Highlands every summer would be perfect if that was possible.

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Ronnieboy in reply to Autumn_Leaves

I can see your point,but give me the heat any day of the week.I want to see my days out in slightly warmer surroundings.

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Autumn_Leaves in reply to Ronnieboy

I know what you mean. When I’m at my sister’s it’s often pouring with rain and very windy too. And their water tank has frozen completely in very cold weather, which is no joke.

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Pigleywigley

podcasts.apple.com/gb/podca...

A great podcast on the many benefits of cold water therapy for anyone interested (from the responses probably not 😂)

Even 30 seconds you benefit from the brown fat stimulation.

Obvs caution required for us AFibbers.

Take care peeps

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Gertsen

I take a very short cold shower in the morning it wakes me up 😳

Joe39 profile image
Joe39

The science on the benefits of cold exposure are solid and growing as more research is done in this area. When I'm strict my cold, flu and ectopics are noticeably minimised.

The human body is designed to be exposed to the cold and remaining centrally heated in winter and air conditioned in summer is not natural and does not promote health.

I'd recommend this podcast episode on the subject and anyone who considers their health to be important can give the different advice a try.

youtube.com/watch?v=pq6WHJz...

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Pigleywigley in reply to Joe39

thanks Joe I like Huberman podcasts will give this a listen. I attached one further up on feel better live more another good podcast!

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2learn

Hi, I think I read on BBC news website, around all the new year swims they had found more cases of heart problems from cold water dips. Here's a link bbc.co.uk/news/health-61260268

Put it into google and hit return. Hope it works, but I'm not much good at this so may not. Article goes through pros and cons, one of which is it may cause AF.

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MarkS

The benefits of cold water swimming seem to be exaggerated. Prof Tipton of the local Portsmouth University researches exposure to cold water and he says the exhilaration felt after cold water swimming is due to the sudden release of stress hormones, and pinning down any physiological benefits has been difficult. Anyone swimming locally (Chichester/Langstone Harbour or the sea front) would be liable to pick up something nasty in the wintertime anyway due to the sewage overflows!

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Autumn_Leaves in reply to MarkS

I’ve heard him on a podcast but can’t remember exactly which one so I can’t provide a link. He’s worth a listen. What he says is very interesting.

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Bagrat

Some triggers for AF also can stop an episode. Iced drinks one example.The furthest I get is splashing face with cold water.!!

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Pigleywigley

thank you I totally agree with you. Hope you get to do it again!

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