Hi All,
Anyone got one of these getwellue.com/products/hear...
I'm liking what it can pick up
Sinus Rhythm
Ectopic Rhythm
Sinus Tachycardia
Sinus Bradycardia
PAC(Premature Supraventricular Contraction)
PVC(Premature Ventricular Contraction)
Couplet of PAC
Couplet of PVC
PAC Bigeminy
PVC Bigeminy
PAC Trigeminy
PVC Trigeminy
Supraventricular Tachycardia
Ventricular Tachycardia
Atrial Flutter
Atrial Fibrillation
HRV
I'm liking the Idea!! Chance of becoming a teeny bit obsessed though....?? You get one and then tell me what its like !😀
Kardia picks up many/most of those.. and it depends on what you think you may have, hopefully not all of them!
All my Kardia likes to give me is 'Unclassified' on all the weird ones, I know what they are but I'd expect more from them, if I pay 9.99 per month then Kardia will open up and give me more rhythm markers. At mo it gives Sinus, A-Fib, Tachy, Brady and Unclassified and that's all 
$9.99/month is approx 2.5 years worth of the purchase price of the Getwellvue? And what will you do with the data apart from fret? Personally I would invest the money in discussions with my cardiologist/EP where you can ask questions rather than a 'computer says no' take it or leave it output but.. your money/your life! Good luck!
Do you have the Kardia 6L? Because mine gives me AF along with all the detailed ectopics. If it isnt AF, It will say NSR with PAC, PVC or whatever ectopic it happens to be.
Yep, mines a 6L, I've had strings of PAC's and it always comes back as unclassified, I like the idea of leaving it stuck on when I'm active to capture the worst of the worst and for an AI programme to give that excellent summary of all the different Arrhythmia was too tempting
I've been looking at this, but funds don't allow at present. The problem with Kardia is getting it to catch the arrhythmias when they are transient. The Apple Watch is better in that respect, but this would be spot on.
Steve
Don't you have to touch the Apple watch with the other hand to get a reading? In which case how is it better than a Kardia? I took part in a experiment at Oxford University Hospitals comparing Apple watch and some weird ring thing, both of which came out pretty poor in the trials across over 100 patients..
I have both and because the Apple Watch is always on my wrist (and does so much more...), I'm more likely to catch the arrhythmia than with my Kardia which I usually leave at home at home and this needs more time to set up. I wouldn't be without either, in truth, but the Kardia has been fooled to report AF when it wasn't, twice, whereas the Apple Watch has been spot on so far. I only get AF occasionally (June was the last time) but I get other arrhythmias which is why I like the devices and find them comforting, in a way, I suppose.
I haven't seen any study in which the Apple Watch came out rated as poor, and can't see how it could do so, myself. Its failing is on the very hot days we've had of late as it does not make good contact with sweaty skin!
In truth, though, with Kardia and the Apple Watch (and indeed all other brands as I tried a couple), they are really suited only to revealing AF. If you have only AF, then they all work to show it. That said, if you know you do only have AF, then, in a sense, you don't really need to be told what is going on as you would know. It's when other arrhythmias exist that can trigger or become AF that I find them useful.
Steve
The report isn't published yet, just the comments from the EP running the trial. I'm on the list to receive a copy when it is released so will try to make it available here somehow.. (but surprised that sweat causes a problem, when the Kardia specifically suggests moistening the fingers to make better contact!)
I've bought one last week and should be getting it in a few days. I got this as I want to get the data while I'm running / cycling to see whether I am starting to trigger AFib as I push the HR upwards. I know I get AFib if I go too hard (I call it falling off the cliff), but this was pretty much the only accessible device I could find to monitor the leadup. Apparently it's not great without the electrodes, but you can get replacement electrodes cheap on ebay (probably about the same price as my disposable contact lenses).
The problem I've got with the apple watch is that it's rubbish for ECG in the middle of exercise. I stopped the other day at 150bpm after cycling up a hill and got no meaningful data. Probably similar to Kardia if you are not exercising. Kardia would be better and cheaper compared to apple watch, but you can't using when you are running or cycling.
There's a cheaper version which gives you 15 mins of monitoring, but I like the idea of strapping it on before a ride / run and not having to worry.
Cheers,
Tom
Will we ever see a Kardia Wearable Watch I wonder?
Got mine on Friday, and so far very happy with it - already given me loads of useful info.
Went for ride on Saturday morning - 110k, aiming to HR max sub 150 and avg around 130-135. Don't think I hit the afib zone. Got back home, plugged it in and not much data.
Worked out that I had not positioned the ECG stickers very well so wasn't picking it up, so put it lower and then and then recorded for 13 hours. I've always felt that I had some ectopics after exercise, and this showed me roughly a 10% PAC rate for the rest of the day (5200 in 13 hours). Was chopping down a tree in the backyard and a few other things - frequency noticeably increases above 100 bpm. The report is pretty cool - gives you a summary of the download, and by hour. Shows the ECG for the top events - basically a 7 page report you can email to your cardio. You can then go into the program and it categorises all your issues, so can click through and it takes you to the ECG trace at that time. There's an app on your phone which is also bluetooth connects which shows you instantaneous and you can record, but in order to get the analysis you need to connect it to PC / MAC and send the file for review (takes 10 - 20 mins)
Wore it on Sunday as well, playing golf and general house stuff. 1000 PAC in 10 hours, with no strenuous activity. Showed the cardiologist and although it's not a proper scientific device, he thought it was very useful for someone like me to get way better visibility as to what the trigger points may be.
Will keep on testing, this time while exercising. Has given me 1/2 tab of 50mg metoprolol to take prior to exercising in the morning, suggested to do some testing of no tablets then tablets and seeing whether there's a noticeable effect.
Haven't used the chest strap yet - relying on the ECG patches. Only comment is the ones supplied are properly sticky - almost bruising when you rip off. I've ordered some 3M ones off ebay.
Awesome, mine is in the post and arriving tomorrow 😀 do you feel your 1000 PACs with no strenuous activity?
I do now but only because I'm conscious of them - I always used to think my HR was a bit pounding / uneven after exercise just assumed was normal. The first time it was picked up was about 4 years ago. I was donating plasma, and they do a pulse rate check (hand on wrist). The denied me because I had more than 10%, but I had run 14k's that morning before turning up, so just stopped exercising hard before giving blood. Found out they were called ectopics from dr google and were normal...
Got some pretty good data out of my ride this morning - definitely can see the HR a bit all over the shop when I am pushing it. Here's the trace when sitting at the coffee shop after 1 1/2 hours on the bike - 5 laps in a group ride around 37-40k avg, then drop the pace back up the hill home. I can feel these ones - just feels uneven. Interestingly enough, frequency of PAC's increases with the ride duration, and are still going strong 20 mins after getting off the bike. Can still feel them now (2 hours post ride).
very similar to my PACs, i cant believe you can do all that exercise and laugh in the face off all those during, wish i was that strong mentally during activity, pop up a summary sheet when you have a little time, great stuff though
I also LOVE the live App that gives you a live realtime ECG, so if i get a bad one I can also record a minimum of 30 secs up to 30 minute snip of live ECG for immediate access in the App that you can do on the go
hi. I recently bought a Wellue and it’s fantastic. I thought that you always had to download the data but you mention a live app in one of your replies below. I assume to work a bit like a Kardia. The instruction manual doesn’t mention it at all, can you explain further please or have I misinterpreted? Thanks
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