Bisoprolol Seventy 9 John

[Seventy9]

Hi I take the Drug just having it now but

Listen I’ve been on 10 mm for a year I feel No side effects I look forward in a funny way To taking it because coupled with 10mm of Ramipril at Night time I do realise the two Together control my PAF.

I can’t believe 1.5 mm would give

much problem to anyone and would

without any Medical Knowledge suggest

that taking any thing into our Bodies gives

a certain amount of Anxiety?

Try just believing it will do you good.

Guys Seventy 9

I am as suggested in the Blanking Period

at Day 26 post Ablation I am still in PAF

My New Cardio clinic I latched onto last

Friday while having the Echo sounding

has pushed me through a Holter

24 Hour Tape all sorted in sort time

48 Hours ( Waited under Labour) years ago

3 Months for Appointment?

The Nurses Cardiac Specials are trying to

do a Cardio Version at Lister but require

The go ahead from my Doctor at Royal

Brompton.

It is good to see they all work as one unit.

Any Feed back Bob and Ian.

Just to add although I’m in PAF I

feel little discomfort.

Can’t feel any Palpitations and BP under

Control .

Must get out of Bed and start Exercising

Including my Fixed Mountain Bike in

our lovely Heated Garage .

Regards all

John

[CDreamer]

Because you don’t suffer side effects doesn’t mean others don’t. I have a red alert on my medical file to ensure no one ever prescribes Bisoprolol for me again. I think Bob described it as the Devil’s Spawn and I agree.

However, if you do well on it - great but please remember that we are all different and react very differently to every substance. There is no definitive right or wrong drug or treatment, it’s what works for you that is important.

Best wishes CD

[Physalis]

Because you are on ramipril, you have high blood pressure. What bisoprolol does is to reduce your blood pressure slightly, it is a beta blocker, and also decrease your heart rate.

The problem that those of us, without high blood pressure and with a normal heart rate of about 60, have is that reducing our heart rate makes us feel not so good.

I didn't like taking 1.25 mg so the doctor saying I needed to up it to 2.5 mg didn't seem right so I asked to see the community cardiology doctor. He said that it wasn't doing much good, only smoothing the rate and I should have an ablation. Back in March, just before the lockdown I was seen by a doctor in the cardiology department who said, in order to have the ablation, I must take bisoprolol daily. I took it for three or four months and I felt worse taking it than when I wasn't. After the ablation I dropped it after a fortnight. I felt no ill effects.

My hospital only has a six month check-up after the ablation which probably isn't good enough.

When you say you are in PAF, do you mean paroxysmal, persistent or permanent?

[BobD Volunteer]

absolutely what CDreamer said.We are all different and you one of the lucky ones

[Hidden]

I’m not sure I fully understand what you are saying but that’s probably my fault. I think you mean you had an ablation less than a month ago but unfortunately, you are still experiencing AF. If that’s the case, perhaps using an exercise bike is not a good idea no matter how inviting a warm garage might seem

[Seventy9 in reply to Hidden]

Hi thanks could be correct Doctors say toExercise I don’t go Mad and only 10 mins

Each Day it’s very Safe

[Desanthony]

Lucky you being able to take bisoprolol - I can't take anything like that. I also envy you your heated garage. I exercise out in mine now as did start going back to the gym when we were allowed but after a couple of weeks of watching some not taking the precautions they were supposed to I thought it better at my advanced age to stay away and continue to exercise at home. The Gym has brilliant controls in place but so many just don't bother to clean equipment etc it makes my blood boil! I have a treadmill (bought so I had somewhere to walk on the flat after my hip replacement 11 years ago - it was all hills - even our drive was a steep up hill walk where we used to live) and a bike out there with an old cassette player to keep me company while I generate my own heat. Its good to come into the lounge to do a few weights and floor exercises.

So glad that you feel well. Glad to say that I am still in NSR following my 3rd cardioversion last February.

Stay safe and take care of yourself.

[Seventy9 in reply to Desanthony]

Hi had to have Garage Heated my Wife has Washing Machine and Dryer ETCSo we required Anti Frost Heating

It’s A Double integrated Garage fitted

out with Tiled Floor and Glass Mirror

Sliding Doors that we Manufacture

More like a Car Showroom.

It used to be a Tip once

[Desanthony in reply to Seventy9]

Fortunately we hardly ever get frost here and we have the boiler out there so hoping that keeps the place warm enough it has for the last 3 years and the washing machine has not frozen up - as a new house it has good insulation - too much in my opinion but works well. A garage is always a struggle and I only know one person who actually gets their car in their garage. I could once but that was when I was working away and my wife tidied everything and always got the car in there. I don't think it has happened since ever - oh when we moved house 3 years ago we could have got our car in the garage for the couple of months before we moved but didn't.

[Seventy9 in reply to Desanthony]

It’s my Plumber he is very fussy our Garage is real nice .But have to keep it tidy.

One car 350 SL lives in .

My BMW X5 is on Drive.

Such is life.

A very strange change in Health .

Not sure why but few weeks back

When we drove anywhere I felt like

Fuzzy Head Concentration was a little

Like Blurred .

Notice last few Days it’s all gone

I feel as Bright as a Button .

Could it be BP took it today very good

118/ 80 Pulse 53 like a child’s maybe

BP good you feel good ?

Still have PAF but wonder if the

Ablation burn helps ?

John Seventy 9

[Desanthony in reply to Seventy9]

We are affected by air pressure - my wife especially notices she gets a headachy feel when pressure changes.

[CDreamer]

PS - getting on a bike this early after ablation would not be my choice and if I did, then I would go very careful and watch my HR and ensure it was within my personal therapeutic range.

[Desanthony in reply to CDreamer]

I always do and have a heart monitor with chest strap that my lovely wife bought me for my birthday as my old one had given up on me. After 37 years as a P Ed Instructor and Parachute Jumping Instructor in the RAF it is hard not to "go for the burn" and get over the old saying "No pain, no gain" It may even be the reason I got AF in the first place. So watching my heart rate is good for me - you can still get good exercise without pain and going for the burn - especially at my advanced age - though they do say that most accidents suffered by men are by old men doing things they think they should be able to do because they could do it when they were young men! Take it easy its not a competition - though it's taken me until I am 76 to realise this.

[CDreamer in reply to Desanthony]

I found pacing myself and knowing when to draw back or stop has been for me, the most difficult thing! Still not mastered it but am improving. My son commented that he thought it interesting that I had been blessed with 2 chronic conditions which limited me and suggested that I should listen to the message my body was screaming!

It’s really hard but the consequences for me now are that if and when I overdo things, I just cannot move because my muscles don’t obey. Frustrating.