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Does bouts of afib at night cause frequent trips the the bathroom??

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Ok so, I've been posting abt the heaviness and hard to breath in my chest , well it's become most all the time I have the heaviness and now during the night too but I'm noticing that I get up during the night to urinate alot, never have I gotten up during the night to go to the bathroom. Is it possible to have afib and not know it? The ekgs say I'm in sinus rhythm and every time I check my pulse its normal.. I just am noticing that along with the heaviness in my chest and the hard time to get my breath I'm also going to the bathroom much more..

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Dawsonmackay

I go to the bathroom every two hours. I was in Afib before April 2 but now in NSR. My pulse says I'm fine, but every two hours up I go. This has been happening for about six months. I'm 68 though.

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Finvola

Frequent urination is very common during AF as our stressed hearts try to purge the body of salt by releasing an enzyme which makes us pee. This, in turn can leave you dehydrated so it is important to drink plenty of water.

I needed to go every 20 minutes and could have won an Olympic medal for producing gallons of the stuff. 🙂

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bigking

Absolutely, just one of the many joys of AFIB.

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BobDVolunteer

And any time for that matter. See Finvola's reply.

So, my cardiologist says I dont need to see an Ep, he says I'm in NSR but ever since I started the a-fib I've been breathless and hard to breath, do you think I should see an EP even though I'm in normal rhythm?

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Aprilbday in reply toShimmeringLillyMae

The cardiologist probably would have to refer you. Being breathless comes with the medication. Maybe you can ask if it can be reduced?

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Jlaine in reply toShimmeringLillyMae

If you are in normal rhythm ALL THE TIME than your breathing issue is caused by something else and that should be checked out??

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Jlaine in reply toJlaine

ps It just dawned on me it could be a medication causing your breathing issue. I have not been able to take a few differant meds as they cause breathing issues with me. Brilenta and Diltiziem were two meds I had a problem with..fyi

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ShimmeringLillyMae in reply toJlaine

Thank you, I believe its gotta be the medication or caused by taking cipro but my cardiologist wont change it for some reason 😖

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jeanjeannie50

You say that this happens when you're in sinus rhythm. I mentioned to my GP about having to get up several times in the night to go to the toilet and he said that unfortunately as we age our kidneys are more efficient at night.

Jean

Oh yes. When in AF I pee very regularly..... back in the day (when stable) I had a 12 hour bladder. Now it's down to about 6-8 hours (when stable) and hourly when unstable.

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Buffafly

I have had this problem when my heart is struggling a bit, fluid builds up during the day and 'goes' at night. You should weigh yourself am before you eat or drink and then again before you go to bed and see if there is a big difference. I would go back to your GP and emphasize your symptoms, do not just assume everything is the fault of AF, though I have to say Diltiazem may not be helping.

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opal11uk

Yes, indeed it does and that's due to the body eliminating the fluids to help the heart by reducing the amount it is having to pump around the body. Excess fluid will bring its own problems as you described so have a word with your cardio re your symptoms and see if a mild duretic might help by eliminating throughout the day.

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reinaway

Yes one of the first symptoms I get if i wake up with AF is a desperate need to per and poo! It is as if my body wants to get rid of everything as I can also vomit as well! This usually tails off as the episode diminishes but if it is a long one over 12 hours or so, despite drinking water, it leaves me exhausted!

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Gowers in reply toreinaway

Yes - it's the same for me

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Morzine

Yes it’s possible to have afternoon b and not know it I. Had a 24 hr monitor last year and it showed I had tiny afib I wasn’t aware of.

And yes afib can make you wee a lot.....me definitely.

Sue

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Rubymurray25

I have learnt so much since joining this forum 12 months ago. I have posted a few times about going to my doctors about needing a wee 4/5 a night, he suggested tablets to stop the need to wee but I wasn't convinced so I declined. Long story short, I posted my dilemma on this forum and someone suggested I might have Sleep Apnea so I duly had it tested and indeed I did have it and was put straight on CPAP as it was severe, now I never have to go during the night.

My cardiologist is a huge believer between the link with AF and SA.

I am eternally grateful to the member who suggested me having the SA test as it changed my life.

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Auriculaire

If you are definitely in sinus rhythm ( and the best way of checking this would be to invest in a Kardia device) then I would say that the frequent bathroom trips must have a different cause. Actually being in afib often does cause frequent bathroom trips - I go about every 20 mins when in afib and pass enormous quantities of urine. The first attack I had to go in the ambulance it was so bad!

It is possible that this could be another unwanted side effect from the Cipro as this can irritate the nerves in the bladder causing a condition known as Interstitial Cystitis. I would also get my blood sugar checked just in case.

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ShimmeringLillyMae in reply toAuriculaire

I was diagnosed with interstitial cystitis, I'm telling ya it just keeps getting better 🙄

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Auriculaire in reply toShimmeringLillyMae

Cipro -the evil gift that keeps on giving.

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ShimmeringLillyMae in reply toAuriculaire

😭.. I mentioned it to another doctor and he actually said it was possible but he changed the subject. My GP (which I'm now looking for a new one) says only quakes believe that stuff, I'm so offended by his remark that I'm done going to him

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Auriculaire in reply toShimmeringLillyMae

These responses tend to be the standard ones from doctors. Very few doctors actually know anything about Fluoroquinolone Toxicity. Although the FDA changed their guidelines in 2016 the word has not got out to most GPs as the FDA did not send a letter to all docs telling them about the changes! Guess why? Because that would have upset the real clients of the FDA who are not the American people but the drug companies. However this class of antibiotics has had several black box warnings for many years - I think the first one for tendon rupture went on in 2008 and that will be in the Physicians Desk Manual so your cretin doctor has not consulted that. Other warnings concerning peripheral neuropathy, aortic aneurism and diabetic coma have gone on since. All this is in black and white so your doctor's remark about quacks is ridiculous. I would not let him get away with it . I would tell him that you have looked into this , that you know the FDA changed the prescribing guidelines for Cipro at least 2 years ago and that you are going to consult a lawyer. You do not have to do so but just telling him this should give him a jolt . Personally I would consult a lawyer and see if it is possible to sue him as the only way to get through to bastards like him is through their pockets.

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Jlaine in reply toAuriculaire

If you Google cipro you will read that it is a med to be taken seriously!! I was in it for UTI and my kidney GFR rate dropped 5 pts. It is harsh on liver and kidneys and people have died from this medication. Just saying. Hope your not on it long term?!

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ShimmeringLillyMae in reply toJlaine

I agree, I will never take cipro again if I can help it, I believe if my symptoms arent from medication for afib then I e been floxed by cipro

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Auriculaire in reply toJlaine

I did Google Cipro after my last exposure in 2015 and found the answer to many recurring health problems I have been struggling with for 30 years! I believe I was first floxed in 1989/90 and again in 1999 but it is impssible for me to check as my British medical records woud have been destroyed in 2011. I had it again here in France in 2014 for diverticulitis. My last exposure in 2015 was for a suspected UTI which turned out not to exist when the urine analysis came back. Luckily this time I had an immediate reaction which prompted me to Google it. Needless to say I stopped taking it.

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Goldfish7

I don't know what meds you are on but I had similar symptoms for years - up to the toilet every 2hrs or so and it turned out to be bisoprolol which I wasn't tolerating well. It has lessened noticeably since weaning myself off it and now (unless heart palpitations/arrhythmias wake me) I'm usually only getting up once or twice per night.

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CookieinAL

Have you been checked for sleep apnea? Before I had the sleep study (at the insistence of my EP) and started using a CPAP, I got up several times each night.

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Brizzy5000

Before my ablation I was up & down to the loo several times a night when in AF and during the day, so I would say it's normal, now with no AF maybe only once or twice, I am 65 so the bladder is not what it was.

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plopper

May not have anything to do with afib but I do have it. I am asymptomatic so I never know until the fatigue sets in. Eat some raisins every day and see what happens. I'm 65 and sleep all night unless I run out of raisins.

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sleeksheep in reply toplopper

Well there you go proving everyone is different. If I eat raisins I would get palpitations because of the sulfur dioxide or at the very least not be able to sleep.

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kathie659

I was going about every 90 minutes. I think afib woke me and I just got up and went. I'm not diabetic, but years layer I found myself making frequent visits to bathroom. 1/4 cup of pumpkin seeds a day and I go much, much less frequently

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Kingsley09

My friend does not suffer with afib but she is always up and down to the toilet so it’s not always afib is the reason one is if your a woman and have had several children as you age it seems to become a bit of a problem my getting up in the night has slowed down to about once but some nights not at all but I started taking magnesium supplements of 200 mg in morning and 200 mg in the evening couple of months ago and after about 3 was of taking that amount a day I haven’t had a afib attack and of course as I have said I’m not getting up so often in the night to wee maybe this might be of some help to you

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