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[joeblogg]

hi guys, i am brand new, HERE, but male of 73 years of age.

i am on amiodarone 200, and on xarelto 20.

are there any sure-fire natural-substitutes that will be as effective as them, to enable me to get off medication?

Regards.

Sincerely,

joeblogg

[CDreamer]

In a word - no. But if you find anything - please do let us know.

Trouble is that there is no research into natural products so without good empiracal evidence no-one would be able to recommend anything as 'sure-fire' but read some of the experiences on various threads and you may pick up some pointers.

Lifestyle does play a part - but as we are very different - different things work for different people. I can avoid triggers by eating smaller meals, avoiding carbs, having good nutritional advice based on regular testing and monitoring, staying in rest & digest mode after eating and improving vagal tone. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't & I have episodes anyway.

The body is SO complex that we need to take some response ability for our own wellbeing, in my opinion, and work some of these things out for ourselves, in partnership with our doctors of course.

[Thomas45]

I am not a medic but I believe the answer to be NO.

Although I had bad reactions to both the drugs you're taking for AF there are alternatives, such as Flecainide and Warfarin. Ginger is a natural anticoagulent but how you subsequently measure its effects, and determine how much to take it is another matter, and it can interact with other drugs, including those to lower blood pressure. To treat ailments I'd rather take medecines specifically created to treat certain ailments, than rely solely on "natural" substitutes whose effects we cannot monitor.

[Mike11]

Nope !

I can assure you that if there was a substitute for Amiodarone, natural or otherwise, every cardiologist in the world would prescribe it. Everyone knows it has loads of side effects but it seems the only effective long term rhythm control drug. Dromedarone was supposed to be the great hope but that sank almost without trace as it wasn't very effective.

[doodle68]

Thinking about this logically , if any none prescribed substance had a significant effect on altering the rhythm of the heart, would it be readily available because it would not be beneficial and could be harmful to those without health problems using the substance for say culinary purposes.

[Polski]

What other medication have you tried? Amiodarone is the most toxic, so best avoided if possible. How bad is the AF? - Do you need an artiarrhythmic, such as this, or would rate control be adequate (read up on the AFA website) and talk to your doctor.

Magnesium may help (research on here using the box in the top right hand side of the screen)

You may find the writings of Dr John Mandrola at drjohnm.org, and of Dr john Day at drjohnday.com of interest. Also 'The Sinatra Solution- Metabolic Cardiology' by Stephen T. Sinatra (see amazon etc).