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BAT in the UK?

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It's clear that BAT is a VERY novel treatment in the UK. Oncologists can lose their jobs with our National Health Service for recommending their patients top up on T. So finding someone who will administer the monthly injections is almost impossible.

Does anyone know someone who keeps a list of urologists/oncologists in the UK (I live in the North, but that doesn't matter, I'm happy to travel) I've written to Sam Denmeade but he seems to have a lot of patients - and isn't quick to reply.......

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KocoPr

if you can get the T you can do injections yourself. It is wicked easy

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Tall_Allen

It is dangerous. Just the other day, a wife administered it to her husband and he dies a couple of days later. So far, it has proven no benefit in extending survival. It may extend the duration of enzalutamide (but not abiraterone effectiveness). They may have identified a small group of patients who may benefit, but the test is only available at Johns Hopkins.

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dhccpa in reply to Tall_Allen

I've looked into BAT, contacted Denmeade, but I also read your less than positive posts about it and take them seriously.

How do Denmeade and Sartor get by with doing such a treatment at such prominent medical institutions (apparently over some years now) when it so contradicts long-established theory and SOC?

Thanks.

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Tall_Allen in reply to dhccpa

They do it within clinical trials, where they very closely monitor select patients. I used to be more enthusiastic in 2015 when it started, but trials since then have been disappointing to me. At JH, they may have developed a biomarker test to find patients that might benefit. It is very risky to do it without that test. It certainly should never be done in symptomatic patients.

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dhccpa in reply to Tall_Allen

Thanks

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