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Fenben or Mebendazole? Online source & dosage needed

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Hi,

I'm looking to add either Fenbendazole or Mebendazole to my cocktail of repurposed drugs. I know Joe TIppens favours Fenben but is there any difference? And does anyone have a reliable online source (I'm in the UK) that isn't prohibitively expensive?

Final question: I'm assuming this isn't a 'one and done' dosage - how often/what dosage should I take?

Many thanks.

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DAR1890 profile image
DAR1890

my husband has been on Fenbendazole and Liposomal Artemisinin for the. Past 2 months since we discovered his PSA was 23. We are meeting with the Medical Oncologist and Radiation Oncologist Monday. We are going to share with them that he is on these repurposed medication. I will let you know what their thoughts are. The drugs are readily available on Amazon. Our research has been limited. We are getting another PSA today will keep you posted

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CrocodileShoes in reply toDAR1890

please do

TC007 profile image
TC007 in reply toDAR1890

Oncologists are not trained or have any knowledge about repurposed drugs. 999.9% of the time they will say no to that. What's most interesting is the PSA number after 1 month of use of these 2 drugs upfront. Keep us updated and good luck.

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dhccpa in reply toDAR1890

Let us know doc's reaction when you tell him. Could be startling.

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DAR1890 in reply todhccpa

Will do🙏

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Tinkudi in reply toDAR1890

How did the fenben and artemisinin work for you ,?

Kaliber profile image
Kaliber

since Fenben has several contraindications in humans taking cancer meds, ….. as with any self administered drug or supplement, always check with your pcp - oncologist first. It especially impacts your liver enzymes. Liver enzymes monitoring might be necessary for some of us, if we used fenben . your medical team will know.

from Google :

“ Who May Be At Greater Risk of Side Effects?

People who use Fenbendazole in high doses.

People taking medications or supplements that use the same pathways as Fenbendazole.

Those taking treatments/medications that increase liver enzymes

People who are undergoing chemotherapy may experience more side effects. These may include high liver enzyme levels. “

I’ve had strong ongoing issues with microalbumin leakage , I’d definitely have to go through my medical team to try this chemical.

Just say’in

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mrscruffy in reply toKaliber

Gave up on micromanaging my cancer, SOC for me but everyone is different and most people looking for that "home run" good for them.

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Kaliber in reply tomrscruffy

Same here, SOC got me 65 more months of time that my entire medical team still thinks to be “ astonishingly lucky “, saving me from hospice / certain death so far. Fenben or anything that impacts my damaged liver ( like NSAID pain relievers ) is a non starter for me. I’d never get a liver transplant at my age, it’d be a big risk requiring very close enzymes monitoring. Ultimately, tho, each of are responsible for our own choices, hopefully I’ll have the wisdom to make the right ones for myself.

My heart still breaks for Big_John and those others here that jumped on fenben as a last resort over the last 5 years. ALL of them have passed now. Based on the limited experience here …. Using it as a last resort has ended in failure and death. Perhaps if those same guys had jumped on it much earlier than as a last resort, who knows what might have been. We’ll never know now. I still miss Big_Johns foodie posts, he and his partner and fur baby were bigger than life lovable nice guys.

❤️❤️❤️

dhccpa profile image
dhccpa in reply toKaliber

I didn't realize Big John had used fenben. I read a lot of his posts, but not all of them. I'll look back through them.

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Kaliber in reply todhccpa

I think it was one of his giant crab claws foodie era posts or around that time. Seems like I remember he was trying several alternative meds at the time.

❤️❤️❤️

dhccpa profile image
dhccpa in reply tomrscruffy

I've always done both, so hard to know what is doing what.

I'd never go it alone on alternatives, not upfront at least.

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mrscruffy in reply todhccpa

makes sense to me

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dhccpa in reply toKaliber

All good points!

CrocodileShoes profile image
CrocodileShoes

Well, that's convinced me.. Thanks for the heads up. No Fenben for me. But when you talk about SOC - what treatment did you have? My oncologist says after chemo has failed, which it has, that's it. Nothing left.

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Kaliber in reply toCrocodileShoes

My case probably wasn’t the usual mainstream path usually seen here. And at Kaiser, at least, when you get “ croaker “ ( actively passing away … end of the road ) on your diagnosis….. that’s about it. I’ve received Lupron, Xtandi, opiates and about 50 infusions of Zometa ….. so far. All of it intended to shrink my ( extensive ) metastasis , this hoping to make me as comfortable as possible / relieve some bone pain … as my cancer plays it’s inevitable self out. I’ve been told, no surgery, no radiation and no more scans on the table for me as well. Some how I’ve persisted years longer than expected, my last oncologist, in December, telling me “ you are very very lucky “ … three times during our visit. Shaking her head amazed yayaya yayay.

I’m not sure really, and clearly not the best person to say …..but maybe you could run that “ nothing left “ thought by Tall_Allen . He knows “ a whopping lot “ and usually has uplifting - supportive advice as well. He’s the go-to brain trust guy on this group.

Ive mentioned my good friend Mark, ( Urang on this group…..now passed after 23 years ) …. many times. The V.A. sent him home to home hospice ( with a bushel basket of fentanyl lollipops, patches , an Imbedded morphine pump etc. ) and he puttered around his garden and enjoyed his computers for an additional three comfortable years.

The point of all of this being , that “ nothing left “ can mean a lot more left than you may expect sometimes. Speak with TA , and examples like Urang and myself say a lot about possibilities . Hang in there brother …. You got some gas left in that tank.

Just say’in

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Seasid in reply toCrocodileShoes

More info about Mebendazole:

Mebendazole, an old vermifuge -

as an adjuvant in tumor therapy

As of: May 2020

The proven vermifuge Mebendazole (Vermox) has appeared to be an excellent universal

anti-cancer adjuvant in recent years. Since our meeting with Dr. Simon YU in our clinic and

his impressing book “Accidental Blow up in medicine”, we were able to gain impressive

experience. How does Mebendazole work, what is known so far? It

• intensifies chemo & radiation p especially with triple neg. breast cancer

• blocks metastasis

• activates killer cells and M1 MAFs, (M1 macrophages)

• can slow acute leukemia

• slows down glioblastoma, including meningioma

• has shown effectiveness in melanoma

• blocks the chemo resistance gene

Since modern kinase inhibitors, like checkpoint inhibitors, have little long-term effect, in-

creasingly existing drugs are being examined for “repurposing” - for effects against cancer.

We have already reported on this elsewhere. Ivermectin, another vermifuge, is also a very

safe agent and can inhibit tumor stem cells and intervenes in cancer metabolism with vari-

ous interesting mechanisms.

The dosage is 100 mg Mebendazole (Vermox) daily for 3 weeks, then 1 week break before

starting again.

Dr. med. Friedrich R. Douwes

Facharzt für Innere Medizin

Onkologisch verantwortlicher Arzt

Medikamentöse Tumortherapie

Ärztlicher Direktor

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Seasid in reply toSeasid

More info here:

Antidiabetics, Anthelmintics, Statins, and Beta-Blockers as Co-Adjuvant Drugs in Cancer Therapy

mdpi.com/1648-9144/58/9/1239

"Mebendazole is an FDA-approved benzimidazole with a good safety profile, which has been widely used to treat parasitic diseases, mainly due to the fact of its tubulin binding capacity and prevention of microtubule polymerization. As an anthelmintic, common presentation of mebendazole is in 100 mg tablets, with indications for 100 mg as a single dose to 100–200 mg/day. Its mechanism of action has been linked to in vitro antiproliferative activity against cancer cells [5], but preclinical anticancer research also identified its ability to bind and inhibit signaling of selective tyrosine kinases including VEGFR2, TNIK, and BRAF [6]. It crosses the blood–brain barrier and evidence supports the use of mebendazole for both therapeutic and preventive purposes in the treatment of brain and colon cancers. [7,8]. Mebendazole is now being tested in clinical studies for glioblastoma, pediatric brain tumors, colon cancer, pancreatic cancer, thyroid cancer, prostatic cancer, and breast cancer [9,10,11]."

Seasid profile image
Seasid in reply toSeasid

Mebendazole displayed a local, antitumor effect but also acted against liver metastases [11].

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TC007 in reply toCrocodileShoes

Oncologist : Don't take Fenben or IVM.

Me: Okay. Then what's the next thing I can do to live longer.

Oncologist : Nothing left.

Me: Thatmeans I can try Fenbenor IVM

Oncologist : No, that's dangerous for you!

dhccpa profile image
dhccpa

I've always used the cattle/goat liquid by Merck. Well over three years now.

CrocodileShoes profile image
CrocodileShoes in reply todhccpa

How is your liver function?

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dhccpa in reply toCrocodileShoes

Great. About 3-4 months after starting fenben in Feb 2020, my liver enzymes AST and ALT rose somewhat dramatically. I stopped fenben for two weeks, things returned to normal, and no problem since.

PSA also rose during the period, but also reversed and fell back, hitting a new low nine months later.

I've been on Lupron that whole time, and even for 15 months prior.

CrocodileShoes profile image
CrocodileShoes in reply todhccpa

Ah, so it could be the Lupron?

dhccpa profile image
dhccpa in reply toCrocodileShoes

Yes, very possible. 5+ years now on Lupron. I just keep on with both. I also use Ivermectin 3+ years now.

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lcfcpolo

Mebendazole (Vermox) is available in the UK as per the Care Oncology Clinic protocol. It comes in the form of a 100mg chewable / suckable tablet. You take one per day for a month then go onto Doxycycline for a month before switching back to Mebendazole for another month etc. Cost is appx £300 every 12 weeks. You also get Metformin and Atorvastatin daily as part of the protocol. You have to send your latest blood results to care oncology before they prescribe. The initial consultation is about £400 I believe. Good luck.

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CrocodileShoes in reply tolcfcpolo

Yes, I was actually one of the first on that protocol (Gus Dalgleish referral). Unfortunately I couldn't tolerate Metformin so had to drop out.

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lcfcpolo in reply toCrocodileShoes

If you cannot get Mebendazole any other way then you could still go to care oncology, just don't take the Metformin.

Aldo62 profile image
Aldo62

I have been using fenben for about a year with no adverse effects. Happy Healing was a good source, don't know if you can get that in the UK, though. thehappyhealingstore.com/pr...

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CrocodileShoes in reply toAldo62

Can I ask what dosage you use?

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CAMPSOUPS

Joe Tippens was treated with Keytruda. Keytruda works extremely well in those who respond to it. Tippens is yet another along with Jane Mclelland who responded to medical treatment but claims it is all the other alternative stuff that has worked. At least in Korea they attempted to find why patients fall for this hype and tried to correct the wrong.

The fenbendazole scandal was an incident wherein false information that fenbendazole, an anthelmintic used to treat various parasites in dogs, cured terminal lung cancer spread among patients. It started with the claim of American cancer patient, Joe Tippens, but rather became sensational in South Korea. It caused national confusion and led to fenbendazole being sold out at pharmacies across the country in South Korea. Contrary to what the people know, however, Joe Tippens was a participant in the Kitruda clinical trial at the MD Anderson Cancer Center, and his improvement was likely to be the effect of immuno-cancer drugs. So, at the beginning of the issue, health authorities and experts in South Korea warned about side effects through press releases on September 23, 2019, but cancer patients ignored them. Instead, people were interested in a celebrity, a famous comedian in Korea, taking fenbendazole. The false information continued to spread until the celebrity declared that “it is ineffective.” (The celebrity announced his intention to take fenbendazole on Social Networking Service (SNS) on September 24, 2019, while suffering from lung cancer. In September 2020, he mentioned that he would not take fenbendazole or recommend it. He eventually died in December 2021). Why was the warning given by the health authorities ineffective? How should the government respond if false information is spread in the cancer information market again? Answering these questions remains a significant challenge related to cancer communication in Korea. Hence, there is a need for an academic approach.

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Hotoneii in reply toCAMPSOUPS

Joe wrote himself that he started using fb at the same time of the clinical trial with Keytruda. He didn't tell his doctor though, who at the end of the trial couldn't believe Joe was alive, as everyone else had died or got much worse

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