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Does anyone use Infrared heat or Red Light Therapy (RLT) and has it changed anything for you? I have not tried either one.

I do use the sauna after each swim workout: ice cold shower, 15 min sauna, ice cold shower, sauna, shower. This really shocks my system and I feel that it is helpful to really wake up my entire body. I feel this is helpful for my immune system.

I do use a light box every morning since the winters here are normally dark, cloudy and gloomy. The light box has had a very positive effect on mood. There is evidence that these can elevate mood in the winter

These therapies appeal to me rather than putting more drugs in my system.

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mrscruffy

I use the infra red light therapy on my face to reduce wrinkles as I am a bit vain. Petty sure not the answer you were looking for hahaha

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Bigblock

Hi i wish i had an infrared sauna, read so much on how its great for detoxing, I'm totally into natural stuff, i find it works the best, I'm on druds and there just messing me up, can't afford natural stuff now as I'm not working, but i would always go down the natural root if you can afford it.

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Ah sorry didn't quite answer your question, yeah infrared is meant to be superior to heat as it penetrates deeper to release toxins out of the skin.

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NecessarilySo

I am doing several things (heat, lycopenes, magnets) and they were complex in the beginning but now they are down to more or less routine.I believe they are killing my metasteses.

First is hot showers. I believe that was what eliminated the metastasis spots on my skull in 2016. I had a few spots on my skull that showed on scans, (no pain). I read online that 106 degrees F kills allcancer cells. I used very hot water on my skull, during a shower, which I did not measure temperature for but now I would estimate it was in the range of 110 to 120 degrees. I have since bought thermometers but they no longer work, broken or dead batteries. The one I use lately is like a dial with a metal probe, a cooking thermometer. i understand now what it takes, and how that range of temperatures feels. It is painful, but I use the very hot shower method for short periods, so it is a bit painful, but tolerable. When I used it for skull mets, years ago, I usually used it for a count to 25. "One million, two million, three million, etc." It is not the hottest temperature on the shower valve, but I guess I can define it as very hot. It feels annoying but it does not burn. It turns my skin red for a short period, and then leaves no side effects.

Every shower valve is different but, in the US, they are required by law to limit the temperature to 120 degrees F. Also the water heater at my home is set at normal. I have measured the temperature and I have pretty much learned how to make it "very hot" most of the time, without actually measuring the temperature with a thermometer.

One of the spots on my skull kept recurring, (a lymph node behind my left ear), and it caused headaches when it grew. So I used a more powerful heat method and after months of recurrences, I used a hot 2.5 pound weight from my barbell set. I put in boiling water in a frypan, then cooled it to roughly 150 F. Then I wrapped it in a kitchen towel and put under my head, on my pillow. The towel allows moderation of the heat. The objective was to get the temperature inside my skin and to the skull bone level up to 110F for an extended period of time. Often it was unbearably hot so I lifted my head for a short time and then lowered my head. The barbell weight stayed at very hot temperatures for a long time, ten minutes or so. Each time I did that, the headaches vanished and the pain disappeared...for days or weeks. But it took several attempts to eliminate it entirely. I have not had recurrence of that spot in many months, perhaps a year now. I believe it is gone, and the cancer cells have died, and that problem is solved. Just to be sure, I heat with very hot shower occasionally.

In 2022 I had two remaining pain spots on my body, side rib and spine T9 between shoulder blades, which I have treated similarly, several times, with hot showers. The pains have come and gone, for years. They are deeper below the skin than the skull mets. The hot barbell weight and showers did cause their pain to go away temporarily, but they kept coming back pretty regularly every couple of weeks. In the end of 2022 I applied magnets, and they seem to have gone for good. (Correction, April '23 they are back, so I'm treating with heat.)

As for the magnet method, I taped five 3/4" diameter refrigerator magnets together to make a sort of patch, which I taped on the rib lesion. It seems that after two days the magnets somehow kill the cancer cells. This is a bit complex. One MUST use the north-pointing face of the magnets against the skin. I hang the magnets with a string in a doorway and the south face points north. That is important. Apply the south face to the skin. (S=skin) The size of the magnet patch must be greater than the size of the tumor. If not, the tumor will multiply over time.

As for lycopenes, I also drink a quarter cup of low sodium V8 juice (sometimes Gac juice), every morning, sometimes more frequently. And I have lycopene pills that I empty in cooking pretty much once every day. Those pills are 20 mg I believe. I believe I am keeping my blood lycopene level up, with about 50 mg per day total. Lycopene slows the growth of tumors and might kill PC cells.

I am also taking Lupron injections quarterly, and that deserves due credit. My PSA has been constant, <0.1, for almost 3 years. It had risen to 36 after a four year vacation from lupron three years ago. I was taking Lupron intermittently starting in 2012 when I was first diagnosed with "advanced" PC. At that time I had two sore spots, near the location of the biopsy, tailbone and rectum. They disappeared after using Lupron and lycopene consumption, for about a month. I believe that by augmenting the Lupron with other modes of attack, cancer cells and tumors can be eliminated permanently.

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Lrv44221 in reply toNecessarilySo

Hello Necessarly So,

This post is wonderful!!! You talked of some quality things that help you.

We use infra-red heat and Lycopene, and I would like to learn more of magnets.

Can you help me with this? I need as much Information as you can give me..........

Thank You in advance...:) :) 💜💜💜

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NecessarilySo in reply toLrv44221

Sure, I will tell you a bit but I think it is best to search online for information. You can order small magnets from online, like Amazon, or buy in hardware stores. They are small but can be put together with tape like in the attached photo. I don't know exactly how they kill cancer but I have experienced some effect and can say that they do help. It seems they need to be taped to the skin or held against a met or lymph node for two days continuously. Waterproof tape may work but take care in removing it. The tumor might be like an octopus with many legs, so you might need to use it several times or in conjunction with heat and lycopenes and ADT to fully eliminate it. I'll try to find a website to refer you to and post it here by editting.

This is not what I was looking for but it may help.

immunitytherapycenter.com/b...

Edit;This is what got me going on magnets for cancer:

healingcancernaturally.com/...

Note: "negative " magnetic field is the south face (north-facing side of a magnet. Getting this wrong can be harmful.

magnets taped together, thermometer, lycopene pills
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Lrv44221 in reply toNecessarilySo

Thank You so much and yes it helped. I think it might be something we can try easily. 💜💜💜

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dhccpa in reply toLrv44221

I think I'm going to give this a shot, so maybe we can compare notes down the line.

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dhccpa in reply toNecessarilySo

Quite a regimen. You understand that you are either a genius, or insane :).

What do you mean "the south face points north"? Sounds worth trying but I need to get the magnets (and learn south from north!).

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NecessarilySo in reply todhccpa

A little of both?:) Aren't we all?

Every magnet is like a compass needle, one pole points north, the other, south. Opposite ends attract, so south face of a magnet, if allowed to move freely, points to Earth's north pole. Put two refrigerator magnets together and hang by a string in a doorway, and the south face will point north. Dr. Philpott calls south face "negative"; he says each of our cells is magnetic, which somehow makes south magnetic fields beneficial, north magnetic fields harmful. Frankly the logic of that stuff eludes me.

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dhccpa in reply toNecessarilySo

Thanks, I always stumbled on physics. I may give this a shot. Sounds cheap enough and I'm already doing the shower thing.

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Magnus1964

Some times a place an ultra hot heating pad/hot water bottle over my prostate/bladder area for as long as I can stand it, repeat a few times. It feels good and my theory is the cancer cell cannot withstand the temperature as well as healthy cells.

Magnus

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dhccpa in reply toMagnus1964

Can you tell any difference on scans by doing that regularly? Do tumor images get smaller or disappear?

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Magnus1964 in reply todhccpa

I have not had any tumor since diagnosis so to only way to test is PSA.

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dhccpa in reply toMagnus1964

Ok didn't realize that.

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RMontana

I have used RED/Infra RED light therapy now for 3 years. Follow a regime Mon to Friday, then off SAT and SUN, 125 Joules max. I use PlatinumLED BIOMAX 600 RED/NIR THERAPY LIGHT R+ /NIR+ SPECTRAL OUTPUT 153 MW/CM2 (from fabricator web site).

I have done a lot of reading on this and am convinced it provides healthy results, but its not noticeable at any one point. I believe that the benefits accrue over time. One thing I have discovered is that we have young, strong, responsive bodies then age happens and ONCE its gone, its GONE (pick your "it")...so Red/IR treatment just keeps the overall body from aging, one day at a time; keeps the Mitochondria working and ATP pulsing. I will never give them up and feel they will work for me in the long run...

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j-o-h-n

I use Duct Tape,,,,,

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Wednesday 06/07/2023 11:28 AM PST

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dhccpa

I've just done very hot showers over all bone areas followed by coldest showers I can do. About two years now. Seems to have helped with my (mild) pain if nothing else. Cheap and invigorating.

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joeydashoe

I use a joov quad RLT panels daily along with wim hof breath work and cold plunging. that and 2yrs. ADT received clean scan Jan this year but gained 35lbs lost muscle this gives me hope.

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