Hi guys
I went to gym last night, I did circuits, lots excercise stations.
I dont run between stations, or run any were for fear of snapping my pelvice, and start chemo doxetaxel next week.
Im 49 healthy(but putting on weight and getting wobbly bits)been on hormone injections for over 4 months
I know weighted exercise is helpfull and staying as fit as possible will help getting through chemo...
Any advice or thoughts from your experiences would be appreciated.
Thank you.
well thats about 80% more than i do .I walk around the park about 3 times a week, light weights at home for 15 minutes and resistance stretches on each leg for 10 minutes.Now your making me feel guilty .I did finish off after each session with 2 glasses of red!
Wow, you are young for this. I’m so sorry! My advise is to push on with weight bearing exercise, working on cardio on off days. You have to fight and do not give up!
In the the throes of ADT I concentrated on weights and whatever cardio I could handle. Both are important. I found weights weren’t a problem but getting cardio was a problem as my legs felt like concrete . I slowed down my running, by necessity, and walked and swam more.
If you don’t feel comfortable running, maybe walking, stationary bike/spinning or swimming to give the cardio you need without some much stress on your bones?
Intresting use of testosterone use.
Hopefully alill have a blast on testosterone before I snuff it?
Mrtroxely,
The "Big A" has a UEASY, adjustable chest expander with five bands for about $22. It is simple and easy to remove or add bands. As for the orange band retainers, they can go in a drawer. The bands will not come out. The retainers aren't necessary and slow down decreasing resistance if you are doing "drop sets". Get the high resistance set with the black tubes. One band is quite easy to stretch and over time and use the rubber will naturally lose some resistance but for $22 who cares.
Doing a set or two when a commercial is aired will be helpful.
Currumpaw
There is no method of training that is superior to others if you put in max effort and are consistent. Most of us who exercise have certain routines that we enjoy which is fine, but mixing them up brings greatest benefit.
If you want to lose the fat and/or keep it off make sure to do both cardiovascular and resistance training. ADT also slows metabolism so eat less if you have the fortitude. Some find the exercise harder than caloric restriction, I am the opposite.
I switched to WFPBD (whole food plant based diet) with time restricted eating from 1.00 - 7.00. Reduced fat intake to around 30 grams / day. That prevented/prevents weight gain and fat gain, too. I run almost every day and work with dumbbells against muscle loss. I also do lower back rehab, found some good videos with a trainer on Youtube. In the morning I feel fatigued but after two cups of coffee I start with my program and when done and after a good hot shower I feel much better. It’s a daily fight, but it’s worth it and pays off.
my MO has 3000 Prostate cancer patients. He told me in no uncertain terms that those that do weight training while in ADT do quite well. Those that don’t…dont. I took this to heart and I work out over an hour three days a week strictly weight training with a trainer on all muscle groups. He works me very hard and I hate it every time. But I must say I haven’t gained weight, I’ve actually gained a little muscle and I feel pretty normal other than lots of sex drive.
Schwah
I found a trainer at the gym I go to who has put together a program for me. It's on an app and varies by the workout. He's always there in the morning so will stop by by to say hi and see if I have any questions. It's cheap and keeps me on track. If you're concerned about stress on the joints, the best thing I did when I was having knee problems was the elliptical trainer or stationary bike, both very easy on the joints.
Need aerobic exercise. Non- weight bearing. Bicycle, elliptical, or best of all, swimming. Free weights better than machines and more reps better than something so heavy you can only do 3 or 4 reps. Great youre putting forth the effort. So many do not.
as for strength training, and building maximal strength and muscle, you don’t have to do more than one set of 5 or 6 compound exercises once a week. It is fully explained in the excellent book “Body by Science”. The workout is called “The Big 5”. It is safest for you and for me done on high quality machines such as MedX or Nautilus. Not Free weights. Those machines will keep you from getting injured when doing a very hard set, very slowly, for up to 2 minutes. Going to complete muscle failure in one set is the goal. 20 minutes in the gym just once a week. I started this 6 weeks ago as a test and must say it is working amazingly well. You may want to try it. Find a gym that has those specific machines with “cams” to smooth the resistance through the range of motion. A trainer or training partner help to encourage you to go to failure. The last reps give the most benefit.
Then for cardio, a bike or elliptical are fine but boring if inside. I walk and hike a lot and easy slow jogging. I add a weighted pack to hike in the off season about once a week (called Rucking). Use trekking poles to protect knees, hips, spine from shocks and for stability up and down hills and irregular terrain. So great to be outside! 💪🌲🌲🌲
Some have reported that fasting, or pseudo fasting, before/around chemo time helps (theory is that starving healthy cells shutdown while cancer cells don't do that and are more readily attacked by chemo).
Ice on extremities, ice cap, ice chips in mouth - reduces blood flow and damage done by chemo to nerves and taste buds.
Hope you find something that works for you.
just a comment. Any person with metastatic lesions is a fool to lift weights. The bone is already weak and can easily break; if in the spine, it’s a good way to end up wheel chair bound. Stick to light resistance training; under the guidance of an experienced personal trainer. Always talk to your medical oncologist about limitations. Good idea to check with cardiologist about heart rate at the same time. Good luck.
GD
Consultant said do not lift any thing heavy.....(asked what was heavy, he said anything more than bag of shopping....)
Cancer nurse said eat all the buns n cakes you want as youll be loosing weight......
Oncologist and specialist nurse said they encourage weighted excercises??? But not what weight...
So, im asking the guys who have done it? But realise a fractured pelvice going to mess life up abit!!!! Who knows!
I had the same diagnosis this year and am doing the recommended triplet theraby. Yesterday I had the 6 and last dose of chemo (deximethasone). I started fit and know the importance of resistance training but have only been able to maintain walking stretching and planking. The last rounds of chemo have reduced these to a level that I can’t contemplate resistance but hope to commence in November.
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I read Gourd-Dancer's comment as referring to mets in a bone that might be loaded with weight, not a LN or organ. He specifically mentioned the spine, and I can vouch for that. I suffered a collapsed vertebrae (L-4) at the gym doing a very light back extension. It wasn't even a metastases, just a combination of ADT, Abi, Prednisone, and two months of RT. I pretty much have to take it easy from here on with any resistance exercises that put significant stress on the spine.
Hi, it's great how you have been doing with BAT. Yes, I was diagnosed with osteopenia when I had a dexa scan as I was starting RT. But no one mentioned bone strengtheners to me. Only when I got the fracture did they start me on Prolia.
That is almost exactly what I was told by my MO. I had not yet discovered this group and was not well-enough informed to object.
Thats intresting regards bone density.
I dont get to see any figures from tests?
Ive needed ask for my psa most of time....
Whats your bone density routine?
Also whats your routine,meds, suppliments at moment?
Its, bit of mine feild at mo, need be fit n strong both physically and mentally more so at moment, but im fairly good with it all prior to diagnosis???
Not the hardest part is adding in new things to help me going forward.
Removing the bad habits is the nightmare!!!
I got messed about at the doctor's, it got a bit upsetting, then felt worn out with the frustration from lack of help.
I went back to work, stopped at shop and bought n ate a family sized cake!!!!
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