Ying and Yang

[Sherpa111]

We ALL have a chance for survival. Regardless if you choose to take a supplement or not. Maybe I’m naive, and if so that’s on me, but I never felt like anyone was “selling” anything here. I’d like to think that we have a core group of genuine men and caregivers who are looking for answers to questions. I also believe we have many knowledgeable folks that have posted information that has been valuable to many. I happen to look forward to reading whatever is posted here (supplements or latest medical treatment), and then doing my own research. Any questions or concerns I have I take back to my treatment team, and then I decide what to do. That’s me. Everyone else does what he/she wants. I also enjoy the point/counterpoint discussion here on the board as long as it doesn’t degraded into a name calling fest. Anyway. I’m not quite sure where I was headed with this post as I lost my train of thought. Damn Lupron and Zytiga. I guess I just wanted to thank those who do post and thanks for your time and efforts to provide what you do. Now I have to go find that train and my thoughts. Peace.

[SuppWife]

AMEN!!! WELL SAID!!!

[teamkv]

Couldn’t agree with you more Sherpa.

[NPfisherman]

Thanks for posting...there is only one war here....the war against APC...despite the tactics we choose, whether we agree or disagree, discussions should be had and let each individual choose...Anyone who posts should not be shamed or belittled... There are many knowledgeable people...let our discussions be civil....at times, I could have done better and I have vowed to do better in the future with everyone...

BTW, Lupron has made my train of thought much easier to derail... going to a room and then saying, "What did I come here for ?" is a much more common occurrence on ADT...

All the best,

Fish

[Sherpa111 in reply to NPfisherman]

Hey, Fish. PSA 0.02 for 3 consecutive months. I think I can officially join the Undetectables!

[NPfisherman in reply to Sherpa111]

We're making you a card carrying member, my man....Congratulations...May it last forever...

It is one of the debates LuLu and I had on whether it is good to place good news like that on the forum--even temporarily.. He put one up for me recently for my 6 month and I did the same for his 4 year--both temporary....Are people not doing as well bothered?? I may ask Darryl to run a poll and only people not doing well should respond....Does it give them hope or despair? Part of my philosophy of doing right by others here...

Again... Congratulations... Enjoy life....

Fish

[Sherpa111 in reply to NPfisherman]

Didn’t think about it that way. I hope I didn’t offend anyone. I saw those posts too! Hope all is well. I’ll ponder the debate question some. Doing right by others is a great philosophy.

[NPfisherman in reply to Sherpa111]

No worries, my man...I feel happy for you...this disease is a huge burden...if anyone is bothered by you putting it in a reply that should be no problem to anyone....We put people's PSA in posts, replies, etc... Now, go have some fun...Life is good...

Fish

[hansjd in reply to NPfisherman]

The simple answer for me is that it gives hope. Don’t be put off posting. When first diagnosed 15 months ago all I had ‘to go on’ were the stats on the web. Not particularly reassuring when you’re stage 4. But I’ve since learned that they are out of date and reading about people who have had long term success with their treatment opened my mind to the possibility of doing so too. I know not everyone does that well, but it sends a message of hope that maybe I can too. I expect others feel the same. Hope is a good medicine. All the best to all on this forum.

[pakb in reply to NPfisherman]

Hope!

[tom67inMA in reply to NPfisherman]

Gotta share the good with the bad IMHO. I get sad and feel despair whenever another brother in the battle has a treatment failure, so it goes both ways. My hope comes from the stories of keeping the beast at bay for a long time, and I'm very curious what those members are doing, particularly diet, exercise, supplements, etc.

[whatsinaname in reply to tom67inMA]

Almost 90% on this board (and I am referring to patients only) do the following :-

a) Change their diet drastically b) exercise frenetically c) pray for mercy/cure to some deity. How many of these get a long remission ?? I would venture to say not even 50%. What does that prove ?? That we are all different ?? That some are luckier than others ?? That most are obsessed with with their disease ??

[tom67inMA in reply to whatsinaname]

Good point. And of course, there's the occasional member that does none of that yet gets a long remission using only hormone therapy.

[whatsinaname in reply to tom67inMA]

Yes, of course. For sure, there are the very few who get a long remission using only hormone therapy despite not changing their diet one bit, hardly exercising and definitely not praying.

I think this shows how important it is to be lucky And, of course, it proves conclusively that cancer treatments react differently with different people.

Cheers, Tom.

[Sherpa111 in reply to whatsinaname]

I changed my diet a little. I have always been vegetarian so no major changes. I do exercise more, I don’t want to waste my muscles away too much. I lift heavy weights over my head and other “gym stuff” at minimum of 6 hours a week. I’m a firm believer in that much. All the best!!

[whatsinaname in reply to Sherpa111]

I am a die-hard meat eater. I also consume a lot dairy products. In addition, I eat fish and sea-food. Being an Indian, I have always eaten fruits and vegetables.

I try to do 60% fat, 20% proteins and 20% carbs. Succeed oft and on.

As far as exercise is concerned, I do not run, cycle, hike or swim. Definitely no weights. I walk a bit, do a bit of meditation and a bit of yoga. Very basic.

I am enjoying life and hope to continue to do so.

[Ralph1966]

Ying and Yang??

I thought that I will read a new approach to combat this disease LOL!

I bought a book that shows how to do Qigong written by a cancer servival master who was able to keep his "lymphoma" on remission by utilizing the "Ying and Yang"

Anyway, congrates for your low PSA, and best wishes for long long remission!

Ralph

[monte1111 in reply to Ralph1966]

That got me laughing. First time I saw Qigong I had to goggle it. I thought Ying and Yang were the names of the dachshunds. Wait a minute, that was the last post. Damn, my train is on The Bridge Over the River Kwai.

[j-o-h-n in reply to monte1111]

One of my favorite movies.... KILL HIM!!!.... KILL HIM!!!

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Thursday 05/16/2019 6:26 PM DST

[j-o-h-n in reply to monte1111]

MADNESS MADNESS

youtube.com/watch?v=4dPn9M7...(Not working as expected?)

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 05/17/2019 6:26 PM DST

[Alftmays]

Thank you Sherpa! Thoughtful and meaningful post. We have much to learn from one another.

[4luvofrob]

Thank you for your post Sherpa....I completely agree....since my Rob's diagnosis 7+ years ago, this site and the wonderful people on it have been a life line....I thank the Lord for everyone who contributes so much of their knowledge and heart ....may he continue to care for and bless you and each one of our fellow and sister travelers on this very dark and bumpy journey.....

[Litlerny]

Sherpa, you hit the nail on the head. Well said! I couldn’t agree with you more. It is incumbent upon each of us to take the information and advice we receive in this forum, continue with our own research, and arrive at our own conclusions. I have often brought up topics that have been debated in this forum to my Mayo M.O. to get his take on it. Ultimately, it is our responsibility to decide what will be likely to help us as individuals.

Like you and others, it troubles me when debates on various topics degrade into casting aspersions on someone’s character or knowledge. Whether we agree or disagree on any given topic, our comments and replies should be done with courtesy and respect, not personal attacks. They don’t do anything positive to either advance our group fight against PCa, or to instill confidence in the veracity of the information and advice they are giving. We have some true experts in here, and I appreciate their input even if I might not agree with them 100% of the time. Whatever path I take is my choice.

Wishing you all a blessed and beautiful day. May your yin and yang always be in balance. 😎

[DrWrite]

I have a minor comment. I am a college English teacher, so I guess I'm picky, but the name is 'Yin' not 'Ying.'

Most people get it wrong and most f the time it doesn't matter, but if you go to China...

[monte1111 in reply to DrWrite]

I got that wrong! And I don't think I can even blame lupron this time. No wonder when I've been calling Ying all these years, he never came. Parse that one. Enjoy.

[j-o-h-n in reply to monte1111]

Ying didn't hear you ring....that's why...

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Thursday 05/16/2019 6:27 PM DST

[Chuck1939 in reply to j-o-h-n]

Or Yin wasn’t in!

[j-o-h-n in reply to Chuck1939]

Yang was smiling and she said he was Yin and Yin very very deep Yindeed.

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Tuesday 05/21/2019 2:57 PM DST

[Sherpa111 in reply to DrWrite]

It was more about the content in the body of the post rather than the spelling error in the title; however, I appreciate the correction. I was reading some posts on this site recently and it got my mind to thinking about the Chinese philosophy of dualism. Yin and Yang. In my haste in composing the post, I obviously misspelled the word Yin. All the best!!

[monte1111]

As others have said, very well said Sherpa111. I have little knowledge to share. Maybe some of my experiences have helped others. Their experiences have certainly helped me.

[j-o-h-n]

"Now I have to go find that train and my thoughts." AW Just forget it....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Thursday 05/16/2019 6:20 PM DST

[j-o-h-n]

YOU FORGOT HUMOR..... I'll give you a pass since you probably forgot... 👀

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Thursday 05/16/2019 6:30 PM DST