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Lemon juice appears to improve the glycemic impact of starch rich foods

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I read in the UK press today that research shows that "lemon juice keeps blood sugar stable" and thought this might be useful for PCa sufferers. I searched the Internet and found this paper.

Inhibitory effect of black tea, lemon juice, and other beverages on salivary and pancreatic amylases: What impact on bread starch digestion? A dynamic in vitro study

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We investigated the impact of beverages and condiments on starch digestion.

Our results emphasize the vulnerability of salivary amylase to the pH of foods.

Low meal pH led to premature gastric acidification, remarkably limiting digestion.

This work provides a biochemical rationale for strategies to slow starch digestion.

Abstract

Certain food properties (ex.: pH, polyphenolic composition) can inhibit digestive amylases and thereby slow down starch digestion. Our aim was twofold. (1) To determine the impact of 21 beverages and condiments (coffees, teas, wines, vinegars and lemon juice) on salivary and pancreatic amylolysis: inhibition ranged from 10% to 100% in our experimental conditions. (2) To investigate the effect of one black tea and lemon juice (selected for their strong inhibitory capacity) on starch hydrolysis during dynamic oro-gastro-intestinal digestion of bread. Compared to water (control), the effect of black tea was limited to a ≈20% reduction of released oligosaccharides during the intestinal phase. Lemon juice had a remarkable effect, completely interrupting gastric amylolysis by salivary amylase via a preliminary acidification of gastric contents. These results provide a strong biochemical rationale for the development of dietary strategies to improve the glycaemic impact of starch-rich meals which could be tested in vivo.

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Sorry, but it gets a bit tiring to be filling up this advanced cancer blog space with non-substantiated, anecdotal claims or Petri dish studies or mice studies or anecdotal benefits from “lemon juice” or any number of supplements with no substantiated evidence of having a real impact on advanced PCa. We, in this advanced PCa blog, are far beyond a point where any of those hypothesis, will ever benefit. Years are needed with clinical trials. Maybe I’m just being cranky but I thinks posts like this are a major distraction.

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My understanding is that this blog is for incurable PCa. Based on your initial post Graham you, fortunately, have curable PCa.

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23rdFloor in reply to 6357axbz

Hi 6357. I've not seen an indication that the Prostate Cancer Network is in any way limited to consider our PCa fellows and friends as incurable vs. curable. In my opinion, no issues (posts) should be dismissed or devalued with that as a determination. Here's the PCN statement of purpose that leaves the discussion broadly open and welcoming. First and foremost, we're all in it together:

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Newly diagnosed? On Active Surveillance? You've got brothers here! What's next after surgery or radiation? Impotent? Difficulty with Urine Control? Caregiver or Spouse? You are not alone, here. A friendly, safe, informal atmosphere where we can pick each other's brains. Your 24 hour online support group. Our community is run by Malecare Cancer Support. We are men, fighting prostate cancer, together.

-Dan

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6357axbz in reply to 23rdFloor

My apologies for being harsh. I was up late trying to keep up with the myriad of options available for potentially helping to extend our lifespan. My understanding was that this “Advanced Prostate Cancer” blog was for “Advanced Prostate Cancer” patients, i.e., those of us unfortunate enough to be in the 3% of men whose original diagnosis was incurable PCa, per standard definition:

“Advanced prostate cancer is cancer that has spread from the prostate to other parts of the body. It’s also called metastatic prostate cancer.”

As others here have stated “we are in a club we never wanted to be a member of”.

There is a huge amount of information coming into this blog and, with my understanding of “Advanced Prostate Cancer” many of the posts coming in are not relevant to us 3% and it takes time to sort out what’s meaningful to us and what isn’t. Perhaps if there is not a blog dedicated to incurable PCa then there should be. I thought there was another blog associated with Malecare dedicated to non-Advanced PCa.

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23rdFloor in reply to 6357axbz

#6357 Thanks for your message. Appreciate the follow-up. Sorry to appear that I was shaking my finger your way. Not sure why or how, but for me this is blog is headlined: "Prostate Cancer Network." Doesn't appear, for me, as an "Advanced Prostate Cancer" blog trail. Understand your focus and frustration. There are definitely a bucket of issues that don't pertain to me or my case. Still glad to pick through and learn along the way. Agree too, that I joined a club I'd rather not be a member of. But here I am nonetheless. And all of us, too. Wishing you well and take care.

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6357axbz in reply to 23rdFloor

Your choices at this point are pretty simple, RP or RT (Preferably SBRT). Even though Phase III clinical trials give either one equal effectiveness, at your relatively young age my opinion is RP, as you have opted for, is the best option. The potential for serious (lasting) SEs, assuming you have a top notch surgeon, is about 10%. The advantage of going RP, as it seems you’ve opted for, is that if, down the road it fails and your PSA is rising, you can still do salvage radiation. If you start out doing radiation (sbrt or imrt) you cant do it again because of major toxicity issues.

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Graham49 in reply to 6357axbz

My oncologist has never used the word "curable" with regard to my cancer. I have 3 monthly PSA tests. It does not seem that I am cured.