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To Vaxx or not to Vaxx - c'est la question

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For those like me with residual but life changing effects from the Enc and on permanent medications and repeated assessments and wondering about the vaxx.

Should I or shouldn't I? My immune system is low due to the steroids which dampen down its effectiveness. If I avoid the Vaxx I may get Quovid, if I get the vaxx I may get side effects - here are some testimonies from folks with first hand experience: bitchute.com/video/DkQ918j0...

If you are allowed a choice ....

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alpappy

Hi I had it as long covid mimics enc and I have quite enough already to deal with. Had pfizer ...no problems On balance was the right decision Only risk of vaccine I'm younger men is myocarditis but most people with long covid having symptoms like enc. My ten cents worth Dr Alan

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Gandalf2 in reply to alpappy

I'll give it a miss, I can avoid crowds and wear a mask when needed.Chances are I would recover from Covid (99.7%) the vaxx side effects are well attested and irreversible.

Also the widespread censorship of alternative opinions is too authoritarian for me.

Plus the mandates are against the Nuremberg Code and illegal in my view, although sophistry and legal wrangling may state otherwise.

My nature is that whenever I am threatened or bullied I refuse to comply.

Summer days and happy hours :-)

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Ocean96

Hi Gandalf2

Thanks for sharing your concerns and I'm sure by asking you will help others wondering the same. I would highly recommend contacting the encephalitis society who has already done a lot of research and reading regarding the safety of the vaccine for those affected by encephalitis. Here is a link for the encephalitis societies statement regarding the Covid-19 vaccine: encephalitis.info/blog/covi...

It also provides further support: We are here for you. If you are worried and want to chat to someone, call our support line on +44 (0) 1653 699599, email support@encephalitis.info or use our Chat Online button on the website encephalitis.info

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Gandalf2 in reply to Ocean96

I'll give it a miss, I can avoid crowds and wear a mask when needed.

Chances are I would recover from Covid (99.7%) the vaxx side effects are well attested and irreversible.

Also the widespread censorship of alternative opinions is too authoritarian for me.

Plus the mandates are against the Nuremberg Code and illegal in my view, although sophistry and legal wrangling may state otherwise.

My nature is that whenever I am threatened or bullied I refuse to comply.

Summer days and happy hours :-)

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Paula-38

Hi Gandalf2,

I suggest that you do get vaccinated because you have a weak immune system due to the steroids and the fact that you caught encephalitis in later life (your age group) is also another fact that your immune system would be weaker too.

I personally have had no life changing symptoms because I was 1 when I had Herpes Simplex Encephalitis but yes I do take permanant medication and I am double jabbed just awaiting my booster

(though I am not entitled to the flu jab).

I hope this helps you in some way.

Paula-38

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Gandalf2 in reply to Paula-38

I'll give it a miss, I can avoid crowds and wear a mask when needed.

Chances are I would recover from Covid (99.7%) the vaxx side effects are well attested and irreversible.

Also the widespread censorship of alternative opinions is too authoritarian for me.

Plus the mandates are against the Nuremberg Code and illegal in my view, although sophistry and legal wrangling may state otherwise.

My nature is that whenever I am threatened or bullied I refuse to comply.

Summer days and happy hours :-)

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Gandalf2 in reply to Paula-38

Came across this today:"You don’t even have to know the cases in which long-term effects of vaccinations have been observed, it is sufficient to quote from the contracts that were concluded with the vaccine manufacturers BioNTech/Pfizer:

“The buyer acknowledges that the long-term effects and the effectiveness of the vaccine is currently unknown and that the vaccine may have undesirable effects that are currently unknown.”

Gates of Vienna

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NebraskaTexas

Hello Gandalf2,

Ever since my husband was diagnosed with NMDA Encephalitis, I have been making difficult decisions for him. (His short term memory is still a problem for him.) One of the hard decisions was the COVID vaccine. There was so much misinformation or lack of information regarding the side effects. I remembered two things I learned from this website. Everyone's situation is different and check with your doctor. So I decided to check with my husbands neurologist and family care doctor to get their advice. He did get the Pfizer vaccine and the only side effect he had is he slept for two days.

Fall is coming to Texas.... Have a good day.....

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Gandalf2 in reply to NebraskaTexas

Just came across this snippet:"You don’t even have to know the cases in which long-term effects of vaccinations have been observed, it is sufficient to quote from the contracts that were concluded with the vaccine manufacturers BioNTech/Pfizer:

“The buyer acknowledges that the long-term effects and the effectiveness of the vaccine is currently unknown and that the vaccine may have undesirable effects that are currently unknown.”"

Gates of Vienna

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Gandalf2

Hi NT, nice to hear a positive outcome. My personal experience with friends and relatives has been the opposite. I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole. I reported my flu vaccine side effects to my GP and he didn't even raise an eyebrow. They were never entered on my medical records either. I learned to tread warily and not accept assurances without double-checking. The censorship of dissenting voices and the labeling of people as 'vaccine deniers' and the 'unvaccinated' as if Vaxx is the norm was another alarm bell. I hope it turns out OK in the long term.

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AFrances

The way I look at it is from an individual risks vs benefits perspective.

Because covid-19 is such a mild, recoverable illness for so many people, it just seems unnecessary to get the vaccine unless you are 80 +.

However, if the vaccine was for a universally life-threatening and incurable illness such as HIV and I lived in Southern Africa, then I would much rather get an under-researched vaccine and deal with any side effects than get HIV itself.

For me, I'm an otherwise healthy 26-year-old who was just diagnosed with Lupus in September. I recently moved back to the UK from a country where the vaccine wasn't available to my age group so it was never even an option. Now that I've started on Hydroxychloroquine and Prednisolone, there's no way I'd even consider getting the vaccine at this point, whilst I'm still settling into my meds etc. I've been shamed for it and labelled as anti-vaxx, but I have my reasons.

The best advice is just to do what you feel is right for yourself and don't let others pressure you, because they will try!

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MasterBaker

Hi Gandalf2.I was in a place that I thought safe, as my husband & I met a couple we know and stayed in an air B& B with them. I thought everyone was supposed to quarantine for 2 weeks when coming into the UK, however, this is not the case. The Male friend of ours had a negative test before flying and took another test at the Airport, as is standard. After he had been in the uk for 4 days, 1 day & night spent with us he received a positive result. He had been double vexed and still felt incredibly rough, losing sense of taste and smell.

Now, my husband & I have covid, thanks to the lax rules we have here. We've had a few rough days, but feel much better. My husband has had 2 vaccinations and I've had 2 plus a booster. I dread to think how awful we'd be feeling if we hadn't vaccinated .

Please don't listen to idiots who think they know best, through third hand information. This disease is dangerous and the side affects are nothing compared to it.

Every person who ends up in hospital with covid after refusing the vaccination has said tgat wish they'd had it when they had the chance. Some weren't lucky enough to say thst.

Please, if you decide to not have the vaccination go straight to hospital if you get covid and start to have ANY breathing problems. Time is a factor in this too xx

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Gandalf2

Not everyone who mistrusts the vaccine is an 'idiot'.There is plenty of well-researched and documented evidence to say the vaxx is not safe. Even the makers say this in their sales contracts.

The vaxx side effects can include death and permanent disability.

There are plenty of medics refusing the vaxx and widespread demonstrations worldwide against the mandates and passes.

The media bias, demonising and censorship is another factor.

The 99.7% recovery rate, depending on circumstances is another.

Plus the cheaper alternative treatments, hydrochloroquinine and invermectin ,,,,

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MasterBaker in reply to Gandalf2

Well it sounds like you've made your mind up yourself, so I wish you all the very best. I would just like to point out that I didn't call them all idiots, it's just that some of them don't have a clue what tgeyre talking about, because they, personally haven't done proper research. For those that have done it I'm sure they're pleased with their findings. I'll not bother to help anyone in future when asked for advice, as your response to me was unfair. I'm not happy about catching covid when i did all that I could, but it seems that's not important.

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Remos in reply to MasterBaker

Hi MasterBaker - please don’t get upset. I’m sure Gandalf didn’t feel he was being unfair. Everyone’s response is valuable to all of us. We need comments from all sides to ensure we have an overall balanced view to enable each of us to make an informed decision.

I hope you and your husband are now fit and well. Please keep in touch with us.

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MasterBaker in reply to Remos

Thankyou for your kind comments. We're much better. I was really scared for my husband, as he was hallucinating and very confused. It just shows me how important the vaccine is. I could've lost him if he hadn't had it. Thankyou so much xx