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Are there any natural treatments for Nocturia (frequent nightime urge to pee)? It's interfering with getting a good nights sleep.

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GymBag

Depends what you mean by natural.

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ladyaudree in reply toGymBag

Non presciption

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OREOLU

Drink less water before bedtime and do pelvic floor muscle exercise(Kegel exercise).

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asmckay

Nocturia is linked to rises in cortisol - it is generally the cortisol which wakes us and then we want to pee. We aren't waking because of a full bladder.

To reduce it, we need to address night time cortisol. Watch your blood sugar levels - one of the worst things for night time cortisol is sugar / carbs. You may find that it makes a difference to cut out processed carbs at night and eat loads of veg, some protein and some good fats (avocado, nuts, seeds, coconut oil, unheated olive oil..)

Increase your NATURAL melatonin production - sunshine, morning daylight, an egg for breakfast., properly experiencing dusk...

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The steps outlined should help deepen your sleep - and that is key. I am an ex terrbile insomniac and work with sleep (Zeez SleepPebble). Our experience of nocturia is that when we can get someone to sleep more deeply nighttime awakening decreases hugely. it is a vicious circle and whichever aspect you can address (cortisol level or deep sleep) you will affect all aspects of the problem for the better.

Good Luck

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ladyaudree in reply toasmckay

I did some internet research and I think this may be what has happened to me. I have been on a mostly vegan diet for the past few months and have been feeling much better (less stiffness, joint pain, etc). But since the enforced stay at home restrictions from the corona virus I have allowed myself comforting sugary treats in the form of ice cream and other desserts in the evening. Last night I just had a big bowl of split pea soup with some vegan seeded crackers and nothing after that and finally enjoyed a decent nights sleep (only 3 awakes and one of those to take my c/l at 5 a.m.). I'll check back in after a month or so. Thank you so much. I was dreading having to start on another med with dreadful side effects.

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asmckay in reply toladyaudree

That is so interesting. I too am glad that you didn't need any more meds. With PD, you are likely to be even more sensitive to sugar / cortisol rises than most people. Good luck!

Thinking about this this morning prompted me to write a post on nocturia for our facebook page. Would it be OK if I included part of your comment, anonymously?

I also thought that I should tell people more about our sleep device, because it could help a lot of people, including some with PD.

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ladyaudree in reply toasmckay

Yes that would be fine. We are in this together. What is your "device" and what is your facebook page. I have gotten some good information here. When someone posts I do my own research and consult my daughter who is a chiropractor and a great believer in nutritional health. So much research these days about gut health and autoimmune diseases which I believe Parkinsons is.

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asmckay in reply toladyaudree

Thank-you.

Our device is the Zeez Sleep Pebble zeez.org.uk We have about 20 users with PD, including people who used it as part of a case series study on Parkinson's related sleep disorders

mdsabstracts.org/abstract/e...

We are a small start-up and few people know about us. I want that to change. We help about 80% of people to sleep much better, including around 80% of people with PD. That's if we talk to them and can coach them in other aspects of sleep (like avoiding sugar in the evening ).

Plymouth Uni wanted to do a full scale efficacy trial but we have no money and they had no one to do a funding application.

This is a clip from one of our users - bad tremor. She and her daughter made this.! youtube.com/watch?v=Qe9JtwZ... .

My children's father has Parkinson's. I think that there is lots we could do, including with our tech, and we will, when we have more resources.

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lamas666 in reply toasmckay

Hi asmckay. What your experience with Geez sleep Pebble?

cranberry capsules available at health foos type nutrition stores or amazon. cheers

cranberry capsules from vitamin store.

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rideabike

Since I started taking my daily dose of Magnesium bis-glycinate 200 at night I have not had as many trips to the bathroom. I was up as many as 3 times before. If I wake up at 1:30 am, as I often do.... that's when I take it.... and the dose often helps me get back to sleep until 7:30. That's a bonus as I often wake at 5 am.

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Ferret123

You may have Interstitial cystitus. My ex wife had it. She controlled it with "Buchu" herb first or "goldenseal" 2nd. Both come in capsules. It works for her for tge last thirty yrs though now she also uses a drug alled "Elmiron" (very expensive)

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ladyaudree in reply toFerret123

Thanks but I don't have any pain and I'm OK until I fall asleep at night.

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Jandeb

Urox

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chartist

Pumpkin Seed Oil has shown in testing to be helpful in reducing nocturia and overactive bladder.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

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Millbrook

Melatonin. My husband just started 8 mg of it for a few nights and he gets a nice stretch of 4 hours sleep instead of his usual 2.5 hours.

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ladyaudree

Taking it thanks. The answer for me has been eating a light dinner and giving up sugar in the evenings. to avoid the body making cortisol.

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Millbrook in reply toladyaudree

Does that mean my husband should forgo his glass of wine at dinner?

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chartist in reply toMillbrook

A glass of good quality wine with meals may actually be healthful and though alcohol tends to use up thiamine, Dr. Costantini had mentioned that a glass or two max of better quality wine was acceptable. Here is an article that discusses this issue :

theglobeandmail.com/life/he....

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ladyaudree in reply tochartist

Thanks.

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