What alternatives are there to drugs for parkinsons?

[dhahner01]

Interested in lifestyle changes to combat conditions of Parkinsons. Sofar I just have tremors and I slober at night in my sleep.

[Hidden]

Thiamine hcl combats condition except slobber and tremor.

[Chicafromchitown in reply to Hidden]

My main symptoms are, hand tremor and unsteadiness, therefore starting thiamine hcl would be a waste of my money and time?

[Hidden in reply to Chicafromchitown]

Stop progress with thiamine hcl. Experience stage 4 and 5 without.

[Hidden in reply to Chicafromchitown]

Clearly you have not read the information about HDT or you would never had said that.

Art

[Chicafromchitown in reply to Hidden]

Can i start HDT without going through Dr. C’s protocol? If so what brand would anyone recommend? and at what dosage to start. Thanks

[aridin1966]

Seems I read somewhere vitamin D3 for slobber and unsteadiness.

[jimcaster]

There are many of us trying multiple things, but I'd say the four cornerstones of my approach are 1)Exercise intensely 3 days per week getting heart rate to 80% of capacity for at least one half hour; 2) Intermittent Fasting--Eat only between 2:00 and 8:00 pm; 3) 1.5 grams of Thiamine HCL daily; and 4) 1,000 mg of TruNiagen (nicotinamide riboside). I also take Vitamin D and Methylated B vitamins and several other supplements, but those are the 4 which I believe are doing me the most good. Are you newly diagnosed? I was just diagnosed last May. We are all very different and what works for me may not work for you--although intense exercise is a must for all of us, as long as we are able.

[Erniediaz1018]

Mucuna pruriens, B1 and a pinch of magnesium. Gradually as far as possible start eating a less processed diet.

[MarionP]

Making an assumption or two that the problem we are talking about is insufficient dopamine production because the dopamine producing cells in the substanta nigra in your brain are dying out...assumption 1; then I have found that foods high in l-tyrosine (which can be googled), or l-tyrosine supplements, safely taken several times a day, plus vitamin D which helps increase the enzyme that makes tyrosine into dopamine in the brain cells that are under-producing...together might be a strategy.

Plus, SUPPOSEDLY, something called Rhodiola, which, again SUPPOSEDLY, slows "re-uptake" of the dopamine inside your brain.

Make sure you are getting some sort of B vitamins, magnesium, you need all of them but they have to be in a balanced way so I use a B-complex pill plus any common multi.....

The above here is all separate and distinct from the thiamine HCL that people are talking of.

Subject to correction by more knowledeable folks!!!

[Hidden in reply to MarionP]

The Rhodiola Rosea is a very well known adaptogen that is capable of helping to alleviate stress, depression and anxiety and with some of these, as a sleep aid similarly to many other adaptogens like ashwhaganda, holy basil a couple from the ginseng family like panax ginseng or Siberian ginseng and also Cordyceps, a type of fungus/mushroom. There are more, but these are fairly popular and have studies to help confirm their adaptogenic qualities. As a basic description they have shown the potential to help humans handle stress and stressful situations better in studies. Effects seem to vary considerably from person to person. Out of all of them, to me, holy basil has the most interesting scent which I could only describe as similar to clove, but different and what I might describe as slightly exotic. I believe that the panax ginseng is thought to be one of the more potent adaptogens.

Art

[andrehypnotic in reply to MarionP]

I took L-tyrosine for a week.it gave me a severe headache daily,felt awful,thought i was heading for a stroke.

[JAS9]

In your post you ask for lifestyle changes, not supplements, so I'll limit myself to that.

As mentioned already, exercise is vital. As intense as you can safely manage.

Diet - the cleaner the better. WFPB is best for me. No added oils or processed sugar. As many natural foods as possible.

[JAS9 in reply to JAS9]

Let me add to this:

> As I fast-walk 3 miles, if I get loosened up to the point that I feel confident, I throw in some vagus nerve strengthening exercises. Hum or sing along with a song. Swing your arms in different ways to keep it interesting so you remain focused on walking. Sometimes, bouncing a tennis ball as you walk helps. I find that splaying my hands while walking to the beat of fast music almost always works. As you walk, take deep breaths through the nose, hold for a second before releasing.

> Skip or dance as much as you can! Spin around if you can. Sit in a chair to spin if you have to. Spinning around while moving your eyes to lock on things as they come swirling by is a powerful vagus nerve exercise.

> I know this sounds impossible to some, but if you still can, dig down deep and find some joy! Listening to pleasant music can help you relax. Qi-gong lets you move slowly, while focusing on the movements. Meditation helps me when I'm feeling overwhelmed.

> I also do a little weight training. Always breathe through the nose as you exercise; it helps the brain to synchronize itself.

> Relax in the sun for 15-30 minutes a day. This surprises some, but sunlight is used to create natural Co-Q10, along with other very helpful things. I always pick the natural way instead of pills. But if I can't get out in the sun, I take Co-Q10 and D3 pills.

> Especially eat very colorful fruits, berries, and veggies; the color indicates they have higher levels of anitoxidants and phytonutrients. Blueberries are the best!

[Motherfather]

hi dhahner well i have that slober thick mucus as well it was getting worse so i went to the doctor to see what he thought he give me a scrip for roxithromycin 300mg tab it made a differents in one night he also give me some solone 25 mg 2 tablets for 3 days then 1 tablet for 3 days then stop they are a steroid so i have not taken all of the pills yet it did help the first night.regards john.

[Jumex2017]

MY husband does the shaker exercise from google. That really helps with slobering

[TigerShark]

Exercise is mandatory for me and has had a profound positive impact. I ride an indoor recumbent bike and take one or two or three mini power walks for 10 minutes in my house throughout the day. In addition, I drool at night as well. HDT IM injections has improved drooling at night by 95%. I hope this helps.

[amykp]

I eat a keto diet. Works for me. Look it up. I also exercise and intermittent fast. I don't take sinemet. (PD 4 yrs, negligible tremor, mild stiffness, one side...symptoms haven't worsened, and maybe a bit better since I was diagnosed.)

[Crumbcake13]

Vitamin D3 needs to be taken with vitamin k2 for the most benefit. Vitamin d3 is not effective without k2 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

Also for the best resource for all your vitamin B’s is I fortified nutritional yeast. You can sprinkle it on salads or any food.

amazon.com/Natural-Non-fort...

My father was diagnosed 2 years ago and I’m working on getting him on the Keto Diet. I’ve been doing it for almost 7 months. I suffer from bipolar with depression mainly. I also have PTSD and ADHD and boy this has been a god send plus I lost 50 lbs. losing weight is the result of getting rid of all the crap in your body. Getting him off all refined carbs and sugars is a bit of a process but once your body is rid of all the sugar, your brain is so much more clearer.

youtu.be/5sYClVQyMLM(Not working as expected?)

Magnesium is a must for Parkinson’s. parkinsonslife.eu/magnesium...

I hope this info helps. I am a strong believer in nutrition and not just putting a band aid on the symptoms.

[JohnPepper]

Hi dhahner. Yes there certainly is. I have been drug-free since 2002. I was diagnosed in 1992 and when I came off levodopa medication in 1994 and started taking Selegiline and also started doing fast walking I started getting better.

Look at my website - reverseparkinsons.net If you get no Pd benefit from doing it you will not have lost anything. You will definitely get a lot fitter.

You are welcome to email me from tat website and I will do whatever I can to help you, at no cost.