ok, not sure what am talking about here so will say it as the cons did.3 yrs ago richardhad a transfer of 50, now its 30. not sure what that means for a start. he said that because he had ipf and copd the chances of being able to stop the decline were very few, but if he was willing to try some drugs he had nothing to lose. they won't make him feel any better, and they prob won't work but again he's nothing to lose. the cons has put him on 10 mg of prednisolone daily and 1800mg of acetylcystein daily for a 3 month trial period, and he has to ask the gp for tablets to combat osteoporhosis. seeing the cons again in 3 months, so here goes. he gave me his secretaries direct line in case of any problems. so off we go, if anyone understands any of this, you are one up on me.