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So on top of the awful insomnia have got a nasty case of Oral Thrush despite being on Nystatin Suspension for 2 weeks.

Any one got any tips that worked for them please

Thank you

Sleepless in Coventry :(

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Bkin

Oral thrush is usually caused by steroid inhalers not prednisolone. To prevent always rinse out mouth brush teeth and gargle after the steroid inhalers use, then eat/ drink something to wash any remaining residue away.

I've never had oral thrush so can't recommend anything once you have it, but I am sure you will be able to buy something to help over the counter or on line.

Could be it goes on its own once oral hygiene after inhaler use.

Best wishes

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shouty in reply to Bkin

Thanks for replying. Am not actually on inhalers. The steroids are for the Nephrotic Syndrome that put me in hospital for 4 weeks where I caught Covid while inpatient. Am very lucky that it so far hasn't set off any Bronchiectasis trouble 🤧🤞

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Bkin in reply to shouty

You GP will be able to advise, but I would have said then, your thrush may not be connected with the steroid at all but more with your health issues although could be caused by other medications I guess, but your doctor will best be able to advise.

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Bkin in reply to shouty

From NHS Pages:

How you can prevent oral thrush

Thrush is an infection caused by a fungus called Candida. Some things can make the fungus grow more than usual.

You might get thrush if you're:

taking antibiotics over a long time

using asthma inhalers

getting cancer treatment like chemotherapy

There are some things you can do to help prevent oral thrush:

Do

take care of your teeth: brush twice a day, clean your dentures, and go for regular check-ups even if you have dentures

brush your gums and tongue with a soft toothbrush if you do not have any teeth

sterilise dummies regularly

sterilise bottles after each use

rinse your mouth after eating or taking medicine

go to regular check-ups if you have a long-term condition like diabetes

Don’t

do not wear your dentures at night

do not keep wearing dentures if they do not fit properly – see your dentist

do not smoke

nhs.uk/conditions/oral-thru...

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shouty in reply to Bkin

Thanks for that

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Bkin in reply to shouty

Hope you get some relief real soon so you can at least enjoy some seasonal treats :D :P

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shouty in reply to Bkin

Eating everything insight just saying Ouch a lot 😆

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Bkin in reply to shouty

:D ha ha so the steroids overrule the thrush ha ha oh dear still its Christmas :D

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🍞🍅🍕🌭🌮🍗🥓🍔🍟🍕🌭🌮🥘🍲🍿

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CDPO16

Get un touch with your GP again. I started with an oral thrush infection in July and, in spite of 5 courses of different anti fungal medication it still hasn't cleared although it has inproved a bit. I am currently waiting for a swab report but wondering if it is drug resistant. In the meantime I'm eating plain yoghurt as suggested by my dentist but I can't honestly say that it is having any effect.I hope your infection doesn't turn out to be as persist.

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shouty in reply to CDPO16

Thanks & sorry to hear you've had to be up with that for so long. Hope you get the swab result soon

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shouty in reply to CDPO16

Another member of kidney forum recommended this herbal remedy as the only thing that works for them . The main ingredient is Caprylic Acid. I have ordered some online called 'Candiclear Complex ' to try if the Fluconazole the GP prescribed today doesn't work in a week

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CDPO16 in reply to shouty

Many thanks for that.

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shouty in reply to CDPO16

I tried the Fluconazole & the Nystatin for 2 weeks each then it was back worse than ever. So I bought these containing "Caprylic Acid" online as recommended by a member of another forum but Um'd & Ah'd about taking them as on so many tablets at the moment. Anyway 2 days ago took some & few doses later am seeing/ feeling some improvement. To early to say it is permanent but wanted to give you an update

Hattie

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CDPO16 in reply to shouty

Thank you. I hope that you continue to see improvement. Keep me posted if you don't mind. Carole x

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shouty in reply to CDPO16

Hi there well fingers crossed it looks feels and tastes so much better so I do believe these capsules have finally done the trick and cleared the awful thrush. They do say check with Dr for drug contra indications l

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CDPO16 in reply to shouty

Thank you very much for the update. I may give it a try as I'm getting nowhere with my thrush infection. Bets wishes xx

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CDPO16 in reply to CDPO16

May I ask what you bought and where from? Having looked online there is quite a confusing choice. Thanks, Carole.

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Aingeful

I've been on steroids since May for kidney disease. No thrush just massive appetite and sleep problems.I seem to have developed hamster cheeks!!

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shouty in reply to Aingeful

Yep got my head in the fridge all the time🍞🥘🍲🥗🍠🍳🍖🧀🥞🍕

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r0yalalbert

hello, Ihad terrible mouth ulcers sore gums,so painful i tried everything i could on internet herbal dr medication,It made me so miserable and noticed certain foods msde it worse.After about a year of painful ulcers I came across an article on google, it was like reading my own story-Lichen Planus in mouth,Took it to drs for him to read,got sent to dental hospital.Who prescribed me Betamethasone dispersible tablets to use as mouth wash.It helps keep the ulcers at bay and my mouth is so less painful.Another thing i notice when i have a copd flare up and take amoxicillin plus prednisolone the steroid keeps the Lichen Planus manageable.Hope this helps you. Rose

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shouty in reply to r0yalalbert

Oh thank you. Will ask Dr about that

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Annie31

I was going to suggest natural yogurt but I don't know if it would be potent enough to deal with a persistent bout of thrush. Sorry not much help but hope you can get it sorted

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shouty in reply to Annie31

Thank you I will try it anyway 😊

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Alberta56

What a nasty sneaky complaint to crop up just before Christmas. Hope you can get it sorted pdq. xxx.

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shouty in reply to Alberta56

Thank you 😊

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Doggie123-UK

I was given Corsodyl by my GP which helped

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Dedalus

I tried a lot of treatments for oral thrush, none of which worked; my GP also prescribed Corsodyl (original) mouthwash, which did the trick

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shouty in reply to Dedalus

Will get some to try thank you 😊

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CDPO16 in reply to Dedalus

That's interesting Dedalus. No one has suggested that and I have had persistent oral thrush since July so thank you, I will try it.

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Dedalus in reply to CDPO16

It's definitely worth a try. Nothing else worked for me, and I was definitely not hopeful for a simple mouthwash, but it worked (other stuff may have 'softened it up', but after months with oral thrush I was just happy something got rid of it). A prescription is not needed. Good luck with it.

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CDPO16 in reply to Dedalus

Been using the corsodyl for over 2 weeks now and it hasn't made the slightest difference. Will continue until the current bottle is finished but then not continue. Thanks for the suggestion though.

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Dedalus in reply to CDPO16

We're all different - shame it hasn't worked for you. Hope you find something else soon to get rid of this horrid thrush (if you do, please share). All best wishes.

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shouty in reply to Dedalus

Hi DedalusWell finally I think 🤞 have seen improvement on Herbal Tablets .

The active ingredient is Caprylic Acid and the ones I bought online are called" Candiclear Complex" suitable for vegans , the rest of the ingredients are herbs etc They are made by " Span Labs" and don't cost a fortune. You do have to be careful which other medication you are taking.

Do hope that helps,

Hattie 😊

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Dedalus in reply to shouty

Thank you so much Hattie. Great that something is working at last. I have made a note of the herbal tablets for the future (would be nice to think I won't need them, but I'm not that optimistic). Hope you're thrush-free soon. All best wishes.

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shouty

GP has prescribed fluconazole to try for a week but in the kidney forum someone has suggested a herbal remedy they swear by. Will find the name

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Dedalus in reply to shouty

I'd be interested in the herbal remedy, thanks.

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