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I would have thought that doctors had a fairly even male female split but the vast majority of mine, at least 80% are women. Maybe I'm just lucky or maybe more women specialise in heart and lung problems

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Calliope153 profile image
Calliope153

"In 2018, there were approximately 156.7 thousand registered doctors in the United Kingdom who were male, compared to 133 thousand females. Furthermore, there was a pronounced gender gap among specialist doctors in the UK with 48.7 thousand males, almost double the number of females qualified on the specialist register",

So you are just lucky - I read somewhere that 84% of cardiologists are male....

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MilkfairyHeart Star in reply toCalliope153

Less than 5% of Cardiothoracic surgeons are women

The National cardiac audit states 90% of Cardiologists are male.

It is getting better. It is also important as research suggests that women heart patients are more likely to survive if treated by a woman doctor.

theguardian.com/society/201...

There is an unconscious bias. Women biologically are different and require a different approach to their Cardiology care.

bhf.org.uk/what-we-do/news-...

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Caitlyn6

I used to ask for female drs as i found they gave you more attention. I don't anymore as the last one I had went to one day a week after she had a child then another child straight after. My surgery has usually a two-three week wait to see a GP so no hope of seeing my GP working one day a week. I find the male GPs tend to work more full time, therefore easier to see. Also, less likely to take time off for 'family' reasons. Sad but true.

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MilkfairyHeart Star in reply toCaitlyn6

Does this mean men do not need to take time off for family reasons?

Why not they are parents / carers too or is it the expectation that only women take time off for this reason?

Btw my GP, local and tertiary Cardiologists are all men. Most of the Cardiologists I have encountered are men.

The newly appointed president of the British cardiovascular Interventional society has publicly stated that there are too few women in Cardiology and yes he is a man.

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Londoner48 in reply toMilkfairy

Because that is the reality of life. Far more female doctors work part time than male.

38% of female consultants work part time, compared with 5% of male consultants.

Two thirds of GPs are female, with a large proportion working part time.

It is unfortunately the case that we get worse value for money from training female doctors than training male doctors. Political correctness rules at the expense of patients.

My cardiologist is female and I am very happy with the treatment I receive from her.

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MilkfairyHeart Star in reply toLondoner48

No it is a system of training and the way the career structure in medicine discriminates against individuals who take time out to raise a family or period of study

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Londoner48 in reply toMilkfairy

I am not sure how your reply relates to my points, as these had nothing to do with career structure, but merely pointed out that female doctors on average take more time off than do male doctors. They are therefore less available to treat patients.

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MilkfairyHeart Star in reply toLondoner48

Gunsmoke123's response ?

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Londoner48 in reply toMilkfairy

I don't think that really deals with any of my points, which are about actual time commitment to the profession, not about the reasons.

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MilkfairyHeart Star in reply toLondoner48

'It is unfortunately the case that we get worse value for money from training female doctors than training male doctors. Political correctness rules at the expense of patients.'

This is a comment that would offend many women it implies that women bring nothing back from their life experiences to their profession.

Many women doctors have to make difficult choices which men do not.

This is my last comment.

Time for dignified silence from me😁

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Londoner48 in reply toMilkfairy

I will respect your decision to stop the discussion.

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Caitlyn6 in reply toLondoner48

I agree with your comments Londoner48. I'm not against women taking time out and being replaced whilst on maternity leave. Unfortunately I find patient services are reduced to accommodate people's life choices. And the patient suffers. If I am trying to contact a nurse- I'm going to prefer one that works 5 days a week over 2 days.

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Kristin1812Heart Star

More women than men are now going into medical training, but you get a higher proportion of men as the groups you look at get older, and with seniority and with pay bands.

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MilkfairyHeart Star

There is also a considerable pay gap too.

pulsetoday.co.uk/news/gp-to...

Quite honestly I dont care whether they are male, female, blue, green, pink, orange or any type of gender as long as they are good and well trained in their job. Just be thankful that we have some wonderfully talented people out there who have at some stage saved our lives.

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Heather1957

Personally I have never given this much consideration, now I think about it my cardiologist was a male so was my cardiac surgeon but the surgeon had a staff of mainly women so maybe things are changing,

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Londoner48

It is the choice of women not to go into cardiology to the same extent as men. They are not excluded.

There are excellent female cardiologists, including mine.

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Alison_L

At my hospital I'm only aware of one female cardiac consultant, out of at least 20. However, I would say a majority of the cardiac registrars are female. The glass ceiling is still very much in place...

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