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Lung Congestion Silant Viral Infection HEART 💔 PALPERTATIONs ... Time To Brake Out Spanish Antibiotics’s

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Why well trying to get appointment these days with GPS are horrendus and never happen’s BUT when I do

They are going to get piece of my mind.

Yup last few days been suffering Heart Palpitations BUT think Had virul infection as was congested

Thought Heart Palpitations was stress anxiety Till I started my Spanish Antibiotics and Heart Palpitations lung congestion is clearing.

Clearly not impressed AS when I had food 🥘 posoning CAUSED by MRI Listeria Butty I got over that and that’s when sufferd lung congestion and started with what I think was virul silent lung infection.

On my heart monitor during palpitations my heart was 53% stressed at rest SEE PICTURE Heart should be all nice green colour.

So like at school teachers use to right in book 📖 your going to have to do better SO is my GP

Stuff like I am talking about IS leading cause of heart failure AND numbers have not improved in over 20 years

I can’t THINK 💭 why

So it just go’s to show NEXT time your having heart 💔 palpitations AND you think it’s stress AND if lung diseased or copd out and congested COULD very well be HEART muscle virus.

Mainly myocarditis or cardiomyopathy that EARLY action and ANTIBIOTICS could prevent

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Carokai

Why would you give the GP a ‘piece of your mind’

GP’s are human beings. They will listen to what you say and try to determine from your presentation what might be wrong. They are not Cardiologists, dont have scanning facilities etc, they are just there to treat milder conditions and point you in the direction of Specialists if they cant.

GP practice is under enormous stress. Qualified GP’s are leaving in large numbers and one of the reasons is the stress of what they have to achieve in an overloaded, underfunded system. They don’t need a piece of anyones mind on top of that.

My Dad was a Doctor. He taught us that ‘your GP can only know what you tell them. It is your body and if your condition doesn’t improve after the first consultation it is your responsibility to return for further help’. He also taught us that it is up to us to look after our bodies by eating healthy foods, keeping alcohol to a minimum and exercising.

In my experience working WITH a GP gives you the best chance of remaining well !!

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Sillyfroggy

Truthfully, I found your post difficult to follow? What has/hasn't he done to have earned a telling off?

What are Spanish Antibiotics? Have you had some stashed and just decided to take them? Antibiotics literally cannot touch a viral infection, scientifically it is impossible.

I don’t know what an MRI Listeria Butty is either. I’m not sure you can surmise silent heart/lung viruses by looking at your own symptoms.

I would stop with the self-diagnosis and let your GP do their job. And don’t give yourself antibiotic resistance or they won’t work when you need them to!

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MichaelJHHeart Star in reply to Sillyfroggy

I think MRI Listeria Butty is a reference to the recent cases of listeria at MRI (Manchester Royal Infirmary) and other hospitals caused by infected pre-packed sandwiches. Like the Express article out of context and irrlevant to the post! But is the post relevant to anyone?*!

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Sunnie2day in reply to Sillyfroggy

'Spanish antibiotics' - a person can nip over to Spain, walk into any chemist and buy antibiotics over the counter. Tuck the purchase into the wash bag for the return home - 'easy-peasy' and dangerous as can be. I wouldn't do it no matter how certain I was I knew exactly the right antibiotic and exactly the right dosage for whatever bacterial infection I was trying to beat down - but too many people do go over thinking they don't need a culture to determine the exact, proper antibiotic and dose.

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Lezzers in reply to Sunnie2day

Hi Sunnie2day, do the chemist's not ask about symptons, allergies etc before dishing out these sweets?

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Sunnie2day in reply to Lezzers

It's my understanding some do, and some don't, and none of them will refuse to sell no matter what the answer is. I have some friends who go over twice a year (yes, 2ce a year - and they're clueless about stock stability, they keep their 'supply' in the bathroom cabinet!) and know which chemist is the easiest to buy from.

Absolutely no offence meant to Spanish chemists but it does seem something they're comfortable with. I lived in Guatemala (City) for three years during the civil war (my late husband was a consultant surgeon seconded there) and saw there how 'easy' it was to simply walk in and a few minutes later walk out with a sizeable 'just-in-case' supply of any antibiotic wanted - Doxycycline was a 'broad-spectrum' favourite to keep 'to hand' (insert extremely shocked face emoji here!) but amox, tetra, and penicillin were all available over the counter without a prescription or discussion with the chemist.

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MilkfairyHeart Star in reply to Sunnie2day

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Lezzers

Hi JeffAjaxSmith, I would stop using express.co.uk, they are notorious for mis-information. The "5 years life expectancy" for HF patients is way out of date. These days with medication, lifestyle changes & support people with HF can expect to live a normal or near normal life & lifespan. Certainly my husband has had HF since at least 2012, possibly longer, & he's nowhere near the "end of his life". I belong to a HF support group, loads of people there who've had HF for way longer than the article suggests & are continuing to live normal lifes. The article also mentions viruses causing HF, which is true, but viruses do not respond to antibiotics. However, for a small percentage of people, HF can be reversed if the cause is due to a virus, although they may still be required to take medication. All that article is likely to do is cause uneccessary stress & worry to people who are already vulnerable.

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MichaelJHHeart Star in reply to Lezzers

Tabloid newspapers (comics) like sensationalism over accuracy. They have really racked up the negativity to statins in recent years making those who really need them for medical reasons doubt if they should take them! Taking a narrow view (i.e. subset of the data) can produce some good headlines but helps no one at the end of the day!

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Lezzers in reply to MichaelJH

That's exactly it, sensationalism, makes me so cross as it is just so irresponsible. Thats why I always make a point of saying don't Google anything because of the damage articles like that can cause.

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