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GPs Need To Ask Them Self A Few Searching Question's .... Like How Much Will It Save UK NHS Really Not Referring Someone To A Specialist

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Polly63 profile image
Polly63

What a good question. I had had chest infection after chest infection for a couple of years each time getting worse, then I had an exacerbation it has been an emergency 999 call. I was then under the care of a specialist. Maybe if I had been referred by the GP sooner and I had been referred to rehab sooner I wouldn't have gone downhill so fast. Maybe rehab would have kept me out of hospital! .

in reply to Polly63

Thanks , I Understand Your Point Very Well .... As Same Happened To Me But My Doc Nearly Killed Me ... Flatly Refused To Refer Me It Was Hospital A+E Who Saved Me

Looks Like Lessons Are Not Being Learnt By GPs But What Can One Expect When They Get £7,500 Not To Refer Anyone

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littlecamelia in reply to

Hi.

I haven't heard about this-how do you know? Sounds a hyge amount of money!!

I find the difference between GP's on this site amazing. My GP will refer me as needed! Like Stitch I don't understand where this figure or facts are coming from? I would say my treatment from GP, hospital and respiratory nurses is fantastic and I praise them highly for what they do for me.

Lynne1955 profile image
Lynne1955

It was some article in one of the trashy papers where as usual, the headline did not reflect the truth. It's about trying to stop people being admitted to hospital, with all the risks that can have, by using the money to give them better care at home until they are better.

There is someone on this site who has benefitted from it.

Lynne xx

in reply to Lynne1955

Thank you Lnne, I don't read those papers so didn't know what the truth is, now I do :)

This is an amazing step forward, there are so many of us who don't wish to be in hospital. Like most people I would rather be treated at home where possible.

Hugs

Cass

Stitch, glad to see the system is working for you:)

jojam profile image
jojam

Most of what is printed in the papers is inaccurate & sensilization to sell the paper. I agree with Lnne the money is better used to treat people at home were possible. People will still be refered when required.

Jo

libby7827 profile image
libby7827

Hi Stitch, I have wondered this too. I've been having a look on the internet (very dangerous, I know!)

telegraph.co.uk/health/3223...

and came across this article in the Telegraph, very interesting as it's dated 18th October 2008! (not aimed specifically at lung patients though). It does explain how it works though and has obviously going on for quite some time. I can't help wondering though, presumably the doctor has to fill in a form stating he hasn't referred a patient to hospital when he could have (or is that should have?), and I would imagine this is open to abuse by a gp. As for people spending years training to be a doctor, I think £110,000 pa (as long ago as 2008) is a worthwhile reward, but is this their net income or do they have to pay for certain things out of this, i.e. their contribution to the running of the surgery which would be quite substantial? However, to avoid sending people to hospital they obviously have to have other care methods in place, I have the Community Matron Service (who will come out very quickly and assess the situation) You, Stitch have had a team coming out to help you during your recent illness. These type of articles don't mention who has to pay for them and I am sure the surgeries have to pay. These teams of nurses don't work for just one surgery, so they probably all have to contribute. I don't know how it all works, but it's about time it was set out in laymen's terms for all to see. Libby

Gidge profile image
Gidge

I don't want my husband going to hospital; we have been offered the choice on several occasions, but as long as I can manage him at home that's where he will stay.i don't see the point in repeating a 5 hour stint in A & E, an X-ray, and 'yes, you have got pneumonia - you can go home now' - and the transport is a hospital minibus on a circular tour of the area. :-( Recently he has become much worse (PF) and we now have contact with the local hospice, who will provide a 'hospice at home' service when the time comes. They have organised the supply (through the GP) of injectable emergency meds (diamorph.) to be used if necessary, and we will be going to see the Day Centre at the hospice in a week or so - if Keith is happy there , then he will go weekly. I'm not sure how this impacts on th GP financially - the hospice is mostly funded by donations!

A Think Speaking From My Own Experience A Think A Lot As To Do With Your GP And What Ever He's Or Her's Incentives Are

My Personal View Is NHS And A+E And Specialist Are Worth There Weight In Gold ... But Like A Say Its All Down To How Interested Your GP Is

A Don't Think It It's Sensationalism A Think Its More Relevant Now Given All Cuts And According To HM Courts And Tribunals Service Is Still Undisputed

And On Subject Of Bad GPs Mine Needs Doing Any Personal Injury Lawyers :) Out There Give Me A Bell