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Abandoned By The Care Act 2014 & Social Services

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A lot of sick and disabled people like myself and my dad was left abandoned this year by social services with the implementation of the The Care Act 2014 and changes to attendance allowance personal care budgets.

I know how devastating it can be to be sick and ill and having to care for someone sick as well .. yet alone being abandoned by local authority and left hanging with know notification of changes re assessments AS by the hiding ##### own words it would cost to much to write to everyone.

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So this post is for those sick and disabled left wondering hanging by the local authority & social services with regard reforms of adult and social care / personal care budgets.

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knitter profile image
knitter

Hi Daz, that's for posting that clear explanation....does it apply to the whole of the UK or just England....or did I miss that bit.

My late mother had excellent care at home in Wales this year, three hours a day.

My father was in a care home, a top up fee had to be paid as well as social care costs....nursing costs were free, but his money ran out, but luckily he could stay in the home. A friend's children had to sell his home as he had dementia, but the money was all spent just before he died ...they were so worried that he would have to move.

I guess the new act will bring in a Cap on spending...I wonder how it will work in reality.

Best wishes to you and your father, I know what it's like to have health problems and to be responsible for someone else's care as well.

Take care.

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knitter in reply toknitter

Hi. daz, I just checked ...the Act applies to England, but Wales is similar I think.

Just wondering about your dads needs , does he have an alarm system like the telecare my mother had ....she also had poor hearing and sight, and social services provided aids such as a amplified phone, doorbell and magnifiers, and later a walking aid and bed guard.

I lived 250miles away so I arranged Attendance Allowance which paid for a cleaner and a carer who did her shopping. The Red Cross volunteer visitor scheme was also offered, but she declined that.

Take care

in reply toknitter

Hi sorry bout link it was wrong one :o

Here is proper one

legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/20...

Defo worth a read is all changing

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katieoxo60

Thanks D3, it is hitting hard the new social care. Age Uk are still campaigning to save the day but I think it is a losing battle there are only so many pounds in the funds for social care and this year all as gone up price wise, so with less funding the cuts become harsher. But sadly thats not the answer we disabled,elderly and alone want to hear. My mum after coming through the wars has to be subsidized by her savings or family to be in a home that can care for her needs. The new act dose cover the whole of England doesn't it D3. Best wishes with managing your care needs x

in reply tokatieoxo60

Hi sorry bout link it was wrong one :o

Here is proper one

legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/20...

Defo worth a read is all changing

Toci profile image
Toci

Worrying times, Daz. x

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Offcut

Great bit of info daz. We all have a £ sign now that they are prepared to go to if you meet their criteria?

in reply toOffcut

Hi sorry bout link it was wrong one :o

Here is proper one

legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/20...

Defo worth a read is all changing

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Bo19bo45

Come and live in Devon. Since I left hospital after a COPD flare up the hospital outreach team have been to see me nearly every day. I have had no end of help from various departments for which I am thankful and can't praise them enough. I'm sorry you're experience hasn't been the same. Bobo

in reply toBo19bo45

Hi sorry bout link it was wrong one :o

Here is proper one

legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/20...

Defo worth a read is all changing

sassy59 profile image
sassy59

It does seem to depend on where you live but that isn't right either. Good luck to you and your dad Daz. xxx

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knitter in reply tosassy59

Hi sassy, I think ironing out those discrepancies of care in different areas is one aim of the Social Care Act....lets hope it works.

in reply tosassy59

Hi sorry bout link it was wrong one :o

Here is proper one

legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/20...

Defo worth a read is all changing

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FarmerD

Hi Denis,yet again the Tories make the least well off bare the cost of the bankers bungles! Who voted in these sickos?Very few are prepared to admit voting Tory,is this because they are so embarrassed.They should be.D.

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medow in reply toFarmerD

Hi farmer, liked your post, should be said more often. I heard a story at the weekend that really made me weep, elderly woman, bed bound but mentally on the ball, was being fed by carer and at the same time her soiled pad was being changed, her son walked in on this. So when there's talk of austerity (poverty creating) and we are all in it together, and how the rich must not pay fair tax, and how wealth will trickle down etc etc, I think of this woman, and weep, i didn't vote Tory and I've never knowingly kissed one either. Trust your ok farmer x

in reply toFarmerD

Hi sorry bout link it was wrong one :o

Here is proper one

legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/20...

Defo worth a read is all changing

in reply toFarmerD

Hi sorry bout link it was wrong one :o

Here is proper one

legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/20...

Defo worth a read is all changing

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Azure_Sky

I loathe the Tories, I would no more vote for those selfish fat snobs than fly to the moon.

When one of my grandaughters worked as a visiting carer, (she is still on maternity leave) she was given a strict timetable. The times given are ridiculous.

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frose in reply toAzure_Sky

You see, AS, we CAN agree! ;-)

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onamission

I'm not sure I understand this post are they going to stop attendance allowance ?

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Toci in reply toonamission

No. They are cutting the amount of money they will spend on care packages.

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onamission in reply toToci

Oh I see now thank you Toci I think it does depend on where you live I worked in a nursing home and people who had worked were made to top up themselves yet people who never worked were able to keep all the state pension. The home I worked in was sold to a private company the standard of care dropped with the staff wages very sad

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Toci in reply toonamission

No. The money has been capped at £72,000 per person, everywhere in England - not sure of other countries.

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onamission in reply toToci

What was it before I know the guy down the road has had a new wet room stair lift, new hand rail put up his path.

If this is a new rule for England Wales and Scotland should be capped as well

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Toci in reply toonamission

I don't think there was a cap - the LA spent what was necessary.

in reply toToci

Hi sorry bout link it was wrong one :o

Here is proper one

legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/20...

Defo worth a read is all changing

I know several people who voted for the Tories. They all said they didn't believe what was said in the media, and that they thought Labour didn't have a team that could run the country, or that they would trust to. x

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Hi sorry bout link it was wrong one :o

Here is proper one

legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/20...

Defo worth a read is all changing

Toci profile image
Toci

The packages were introduced to take some heat off the NHS by making it possible for people to stay at home and still receive the care they need. Where you live will not matter. The cap on financial packages is set at £72,000, which is nowhere near as much as it sounds and when it comes into effect (April 2016) there will be many who will struggle after getting help for a while. For example if someone needs a level of help, costing £250 per week (£1000 per month), they will only receive help for 6 years. Then the money runs out. What happens then?

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Azure_Sky

The government are crazy. On the one hand, they go on about living healthily so people live longer and taxes on alcohol and tobacco, keep rising under the pretext of saving lives.

Then when people are old, it seems the object is to screw as much money as possible out of them for their care, being mean with the allocation of funds, to enable people to live at home. Or to force care homes to cut back on staff and facilities.

Being old and disabled in this country, is a nightmare. So many old people have become isolated from their families. They have paid taxes and insurance all their lives. Now at the very time they need help, the greedy Tory government abandon them.

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knitter in reply toAzure_Sky

Hi AS, I can't understand why Wales provided such good quality care at a reasonable price to my mother at home, yet England doesn't seem to do the same.

I don't know what the situation is in Scotland.

Take care and love to my friend George

in reply toAzure_Sky

Hi sorry bout link it was wrong one :o

Here is proper one

legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/20...

Defo worth a read is all changing

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Dedalus

Thanks for the information Denis - I bet there aren't many people who knew about the forthcoming change in April.

in reply toDedalus

Hi sorry bout link it was wrong one :o

Here is proper one

legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/20...

Defo worth a read is all changing

Hi thanks to everyone that replayed :) sorry could not be more personal to each and everyone but had lot going on at personal level

What can a say when wheels fall of ya ride the really do

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knitter in reply to

Hi daz, I looked through the new link that you posted.....one thing is certain the new Act must have kept a lot of lawyers and committee members busy.

Hopefully it will ease the anomalies in care ...it also covers cross border transfers.

I notice that in Plaid Cymrus manifesto it states that they would abolish social care charges for the elderly and people with dementia.

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