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A cardiologist weighs in on the football player cardiac arrest on the field

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This is an interesting article

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jeanjeannie50

My goodness, we need to think hard about this type of thing. Thanks for posting.

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Peacefulneedshelp in reply to jeanjeannie50

Not only did I read the article but listened to the interview which had additional information I was shocked at how our administration paid billions to organizations to tell people to get vaxxed.

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Gumbie_Cat

I don’t usually say anything, but there are quite a few anti-vacc videos appearing recently on the forum. (And no, I have not been reporting them and getting the moderators to take them down, so don’t blame me for that bit.)

Here is a Wikipedia article on the cardiologist in question @en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter...

While Wikipedia isn’t the best source, it gives an idea.

The publication that is linked, has been set up by Robert F Kennedy jnr, one of the main figures in the anti-vacc movement.

It can look as though people are giving up a lot, making martyrs of themselves - but remember that there can be lots more money earned through these organisations, and from YouTube views than we realise. This sadly includes some people who were reasonable at the beginning of the pandemic - and they look like wonderful mavericks now.

We have short memories of how things were before the vaccines. Also, how things were just a few decades ago - I have memories of an aunt who had disabilities due to Polio.

So, I know that I won’t change anyone’s minds, but wanted to say that so much of this is political and stirred up on social media. I’m not saying that nobody is ever harmed by a vaccine, or that short term cardiomyopathy does not happen. Advice on this is given at vaccination now, nobody is covering things up.

Just like the treatments and procedures we have for Atrial Fibrillation, there are both benefits and risks that we need to weigh up. Most people on the forum will have had their vaccines, and the majority will be happy to be protected from a disease that can be truly devastating for some.

Then before anyone says that ‘most people catching Covid have been vaccinated’ - this is because - most people have been vaccinated!

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Ppiman in reply to Gumbie_Cat

Perfectly put, well balanced and considered. Thank you.

I have read a theory that among some modern young sports people, unlike most of their colleagues of past times, are obsessed by the need for excessive training and, in particular, the building of visual muscle mass. I read that coaches struggle to prevent this as it has become a cultural badge of honour to show yourself as, what the individual thinks, super-fit but with excessively large muscle mass. The problem with this is, it seems, that it is potentially dangerous for the heart muscle and might well exacerbate hidden pre-existing, perhaps genetic or inherited, issues.

It is also an easily shown fact that sudden cardiac death has been a worrying issue among young sports people for some years, and certainly before the coming of covid.

Steve

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jeanjeannie50 in reply to Ppiman

A young relative of my son in law died playing football, this was about 12 years before Covid.

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Ppiman in reply to jeanjeannie50

That is terrible. How awful for the family. I happened to look more deeply into this a while back because my brother’s friend is a big conspiracy theory poster on Facebook, writing for David Icke’s web site. My eyes were opened to this strange phenomenon. I had no idea so many young people worldwide died in this way. It was contrary to what I expected of fit people and has been going on for many years - well before covid, of course.

Steve

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Peacefulneedshelp in reply to Ppiman

As horrible and true that, that is, and we know that it had always been happening, it has gotten worse. I am keeping a watch on all of this. If the FDA readily posts on their website that this so called vaxx causes inflammation of the heart and we all already have issues with Afib and other irregularities that is enough for me to take a wait and see stance on all of this push. Here is the USA it had gotten political as well. Which is total nonsense. I don’t like that fact, if true, that our current administration paid many organizations to push the vaxx. this should be a personal decision.

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Ppiman in reply to Peacefulneedshelp

I gather that covid infection itself targets wherever a protein called ACE2 is produced which means the heart, lungs and kidneys. A friend's daughter now has a very poor kidney function thanks to the covid she had last March. Her doctor failed to recognise the seriousness of the problem as, although she also had mild pneumonia with it, her only other symptoms were continuing tiredness. It wasn't until November that her doctor checked her kidney function and was shocked to find it was only 27%. She's now on steroid infusions and it has risen to 35% - still worryingly low.

It's a truly horrible disease for some people.

Steve

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Auriculaire in reply to Gumbie_Cat

Before covid it appears that McCullough's credentials as a cardiologist were impeccable. As were those of many other doctors and scientists who oppose the "official" line on the solutions to covid. Those who dissent are blackened by Wikipedia , Facebook etc and the medical establishment and accused of spreading disinformation. But the history of medicine shows us that dissenters and mavericks have always been mocked and persecuted by those who insist on sticking to the medical consensus. The likes of the Wikipedia article is the modern day equivalent of the colleagues who drove Semmelweiss into an asylum where he was beaten to death. But Semmelweiss was right and scrubbing up became an obligatory practice . The labelling of any contrary opinion as " disinformation " is an unscientific and sinister development and cannot lead to scientific progress .

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Kingst in reply to Auriculaire

When you live in a fear-driven society any dissent from the official dogma is very threatening. If we were not living in a fear-cultivated society, no one would find alternative information threatening and people would just take it in, examine it and decide the merits of it. But we are encouraged to attack dissent which only serves to keep us ignorant. I don't know what the truth is about heart issues in the young, but in the case of this football player just felled by cardiac arrest, no one is mentioning the possible history of drug use or the horrendous use of stimulant drinks like Red Bull, that the young consume in abusive quantities. That drink alone has been implicated in heart problems in the young lately. The speculations about the source of his heart issue are annoying and only serve to confuse the public. The truth will come out, as it always does.

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secondtry

Another reason why I am grateful to AF & this Forum!

When vaccines were first offered, I was sure I didn't want to disturb my long term AF remission and there were reports of heart issues after the jab. So I turned down the offer from my GP surgery and shielded instead plus Vitamin D, C, honey & Iv--mectin.

In turn this caused me to follow closely what was happening around the world. I was astonished to see first in Mexico City and then in the Uttar Pradesh province (pop.200m) of India that Iv--mectin solved the problem with no side effects. Strangely all western governments and the Press were silent, claiming there was nothing relevant first and then that more tests were required, whilst they continued to push the experimental gene therapy incorrectly called a vaccine, which has resulted in serious side effects for many.

Many doctors including that cardiologist are now asking the authorities what is going on. To a layman like myself this seems logical.

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Auriculaire in reply to secondtry

Don't forget the media label of "horsepaste " for a drug that is taken regularly by millions of people in sub Saharan Africa to prevent parasite infestation! Which has a better safety profile than Paracetamol (which was pushed like crazy and is actually counterproductive as it reduces glutathion production). A major study was done in a city in Brazil which showed that IVM worked well as a prophylactic. But that was not reported in the MSM . Only the horsepaste crap. Also not reported -the lower burden of covid in the parts of Africa where both IVM and HCL are used as prophylactics compared with parts that don't need them like North and South Africa.

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secondtry in reply to Auriculaire

Yes sad, I am realistic to realise even lives have a price but have been truly shocked by how ££££ has driven a total disregard of the world wide population. We have reached the bottom of the swamp but fortunately there are some brave souls left.

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Auriculaire in reply to secondtry

I don't think it is just money driving this but it is a big element. I believe the continued push to vaccinate the world and Africa in particular despite the fact that there is very little covid burden there is part of a giant experiment with this mRNA platform to get more data about it.

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secondtry in reply to Auriculaire

I hope you are wrong!!

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Auriculaire in reply to secondtry

So do I! The WHO has really been pushing this vaccination for Africa . But what vaccine will they want used - the cheaper AZ ( which though had lower efficacy levels in the clinical trials has been shown in some studies to wane less quickly) or the mRNA ones?

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pusillanimous in reply to Auriculaire

I do have to disagree regarding Africa - most of the countries do not have the infrastructure to measure the extent of the Covid pandemic or matters pertaining to it - don't forget there are 54 countries, quite a few in the throes of civil war and most in complete disarray when it comes to providing services and statistics, I live in South Africa where the government has just about given up both in providing figures regarding deaths and vaccine uptake, which is very low. South Africa is a vast country and probably the most Westernised on the continent, and to obtain accurate figures from rural areas is impossible - many are inaccessible and many people believe in traditional healing. The dead are often just buried in the land surrounding their dwellings. We had a lockdown and mask wearing, but that was ignored by vast numbers. The only people that were personally known to me, who have died, were not vaccinated. My lady domestic worker knows of many more unvaccinated deaths, but these are never recorded. A doctor at the practice I attend also died, but again this was before the vaccine became available. So Africa is a very difficult 'nut to crack'.

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Auriculaire in reply to pusillanimous

I watched a report in one of Campbell' s videos from a health worker in Uganda. Campbell seems to have links to some charity there. He was saying that if the WHO are going to spend money it would be better spent on clean water projects and better basic healthcare rather than covid vaccines. I have read somewhere that random serological testing shows that a fairly high proportion of people in Africa have been infected with covid - much higher than the proportion that have been vaccinated.

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Kingst in reply to Auriculaire

Agree with your summation. There is one interesting side note on HCL. My sister is a missionary and has lived in Uganda for a decade. She has permanent tinnitus, she claims as a result of constant dosing of HCL given by the government. She said that auditory issues are common in Africa and just accepted as a part of taking this drug.

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Auriculaire in reply to Kingst

I would not take HCL because the original quinolone nalidixic acid arose as an impurity in chloroquine manufacturing and I feel there is too much similarity in the pharmacological core ring. Tinnitus is a very common adverse effect of FQs. I would take IVM .

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mwcf

These stats certainly got my attention:

Between 1966 and 2004 there were an average of 29 cardiac arrests per year in the football leagues.

After vaccines were introduced in 2021 there have been 1598 cardiac arrests (1101 fatal) in the football leagues.

Assuming that those stats are accurate/correct, then they are surely food for thought for even the most ardent fans of the vaccines.

I've had PAF (once or twice per year and always self-converting within 24hrs max) for 22 years. That is up until 25/10 when at 5am (usual early hours timing) I started with an episode of mixed AF and (mainly) AT that persisted until NSR was restored during the course of my ablation in Bordeaux last week. Of particular note is the fact that one month prior I had come down with a bad bout of covid (my first) that left me feeling pretty beat up. Testing showed residual inflammation in my lungs in early November. It took 3 months for my covid cough to finally subside.

My own GP is adamant that the covid had inflamed my heart enough to perhaps not only help trigger the episode but also to prevent it converting back to NSR on its own.

On the subject of covid boosters in general, my GP (by the way of over 30 years and whom I consider I am extremely lucky to have) says 'speaking as your GP yes get all of the boosters, but speaking as your friend ........ '

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Gumbie_Cat in reply to mwcf

Do you have a source for the statistics?

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Kingst in reply to Gumbie_Cat

Apparently VAERS just released these stats. Check their website.

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mwcf

Hi GC, the stats are from the article posted by the OP.

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marcyh

Thanks for this. Disregarding or banning information such as this article posted is at our peril as heart patients. Einstein warned, “Science can flourish only in an atmosphere of free speech.” Free speech has been consistently shut down during this pandemic. Why?

I was fine after my ablation until I had my second Pfizer. Immediately after that I had shortness of breath and now I am back to AFib - worse than ever.

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Peacefulneedshelp in reply to marcyh

that is what I was worried about regarding myself and since I had Covid I also had more Afib

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Desanthony

If you listen to More or Less on Radio 4 on BBC Sounds you will find more on this . You will learn in the programme that at least one of the football players who had a cardiac arrest had not been vaccinated though he was included in the list and they also had Pele included in their list too. Interesting listening.

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Peacefulneedshelp in reply to Desanthony

I am in the U.S. where else can I listen to that?

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