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Hard uncomfortable thumps.

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I have various heart issues, including AF, PACs, PVCs and sinus tachycardia during panic attacks. However, recently I've experienced the occasional strong, thumping beat (which is lso a tiny bit painful). I've only ever experienced these thumps one at a time - they never manifest as couplets, triplets etc, like the ectopics I'm used to.

Does anyone else experience these slightly painful, hard and very disconcerting thumps?

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frenchgoose

I’ve had these on and off over the past 5 years since my 3rd ablation. I was concerned about them and EP did stress test and angiogram etc. All ok. He did not seem concerned about them. They have reduced since I got a little fitter and notice them more when I’m tired. He increased Diltiazem which may have helped too . They are scary and do stop me in my tracks! I do wonder if they are as a result of 3 ablations and scar tissue around the ablated areas. Always worth a check with an EP though for reassurance!

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Ppiman

Yes, I can relate to these. The thump is the valve closing on the atrium, I gather, and will be more prominent during any kind of ectopic beats. These can arise in different parts of the heart and, depending where, I guess that their effect can be felt slightly differently. I think and hope it's all of no consequence except to my worrying mind. I keep wondering whether I ought to ask my doctor about it but try to put things to the back of my mind instead.

Steve

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MummyLuv

I have occasional PVCs and PACs since my mini maze, I am definitely aware of them as the heart is otherwise quiet. I get them when I am tired and stressed. Very light burden and surgeon not at all concerned.

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Sal55 in reply toMummyLuv

Hi, what are your usual triggers for PACs? Have you been prescribed any meds? I have been getting mine since my ablation 3.5 months ago. Very upset and sad about this because i didnt have them prior to the ablation for SVT.

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MummyLuv in reply toSal55

They have reduced right down and now only occasionally get them when I am tired, stressed or been drinking alcohol. I have had 3 bouts of bigeminy which makes me feel faint so I have been prescribed metoprolol as a pill in the pocket to take in advance of any public speaking which is when the adrenaline is so high it causes me to go into bigeminy.

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Sal55 in reply toMummyLuv

i see. I have been taking atenolol on regular basis.

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Sal55 in reply toMummyLuv

did you cut out caffeine from your diet?

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MummyLuv in reply toSal55

prior to mini maze yes but not now

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Sal55 in reply toMummyLuv

how long ago wad your procedure. I hope i can get back to being able to drink coffee/tea.

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MummyLuv in reply toSal55

7 months. Even had an espresso martini yesterday my fave cocktail! Surgeon said booze and caffeine are fine, just be sensible

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BobDVolunteer

Typcal ectopic beat symptom and generally benign.

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Palpman

When I have a "skipped" beat it is normally followed by a compensatory hard strong beat and feels like a thump.

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Budken in reply toPalpman

What you describe is a PVC ( Pre Ventricular Contraction ) it is not a skipped beat, but an extra beat. The second one being the normal beat, is usually stronger.

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Palpman in reply toBudken

Yes. I'm aware of that and that is why a put the word "skipped" in inverted commas.

it is stronger to compensate for the "skipped" beat.

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Budken in reply toPalpman

Sorry but I am still not getting you. You are still calling it a "skipped beat". It is an extra beat, not "skipped". It is an extra beat, that is less strong than the normal beat. Nothing is skipped.

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Palpman in reply toBudken

We all call it a "skipped" beat because it feels like it when checking the pulse on the wrist.

The ECG would show a PAC or PVC because of the electrical pulse it picks up.

A manual check would not alway feel it as there is no blood pulsing due to empty ventricles.

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needlestone

I used to get these too. I no longer get them after ablation and going gluten free and avoiding artificial seeetener. I no longer take meds for heart trouble. Diet change and ablation stopped these.

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Bahrain22 in reply toneedlestone

Reading your comment is giving me hope! I'm having ablation for PVCs on Thursday.

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listerines

Yes have had similar symtopms off and on connected to strong ectopics. I am unsure of the health of your heart, but I have had my mind put more at ease with relatively regular check-ins with cardiologist regarding the plumbing of my heart (stress test, echocardiogram etc...) Perhaps a round of testing with the cardiologist would put your mind more at ease (not to say these are not uncomfortable and Disconcerting and I hope they reduce/ disappear soon for you soon ) keep safe

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