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Does anyone else suffer from the time change here in the USA? I don't think that exists in the UK or other countries? For me, when the clocks are set ahead an hour in the spring (just this last Saturday night) or back in the fall, I'm a mess for about two weeks. It throws off my circadian rhythm. We get conditioned to the hours of the day and then have to "reset" our bodies to get used to the new time. Some people I know are bothered by it, some not. It can cause heart attacks and strokes in people who are severely bothered by the time change. A handful of states don't change the time. Florida, where I'm at, is trying to pass a bill to stop the time change. I'm hoping it passes. The first couple of days after the time change, I had more irregular heartbeats than usual. Today it seems to be calming down. Another trigger for Afib I'll bet for many people. Not realizing the time change caused it. Never a dull moment with the human body. 😒

Hope all of you are well as you can be and safe. We live in uncertain times right now.

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BobD profile image
BobDVolunteer

We very much do have British Summer Time here Belinda . Starts 2 am Sunday 27th March. Never really notice it to be honest other than more time in the evenings to get into trouble.

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belindalore in reply to BobD

Yours starts a couple weeks after the states. Ours changed this last. Sunday, March 13. I forgot to set the clocks this time before I went to bed. Not that it mattered. No plans to go anywhere. It must be interesting for anyone who travels to various other countries for whatever reason. Constant time changes. I leave the getting in trouble for the younger crowd. 🙄

You take care and be safe.

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jeanjeannie50

Hi Belinda, yes our clocks change in the spring and autumn . Forward an hour Spring, back an hour Autumn. Like Bob I never really think about it. If I took my pills at 8.30pm, I take them the same time when the clocks change. I've never found that an hour or two later has any effect on my AF.

At the moment I don't go to sleep until around midnight, hope that won't be 1am when our clocks change. That's what bothers me more than when to take my pills.

Jean

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belindalore in reply to jeanjeannie50

I've always been bothered by the time change. More so since I'm older. Talked to my neighbor and she said it seemed to bother her too more than she'd noticed before. She was more tired than usual. Ah me. We're all birds of a different feather. 😕😂 Take care.

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jeanjeannie50 in reply to belindalore

Yes, the hour change didn't bother me when I was younger. The day they go forward here is Mothers Day and my daughter has booked us out for lunch. She's booked it for 12.30pm, but of course it would have been 11.30am the day before. My worry is I really don't think I can eat a large meal at that time (3 courses, though you can just have two - that will be me). I feel like an old ungrateful misery, but have kept quiet. 🤐😋

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belindalore in reply to jeanjeannie50

We now change in the spring in March (from April) and the fall changed from October to November. Silly idea of the government. Go out with your daughter on Mothers Day and enjoy yourself! I'm sure she will understand that you can't eat much. Goodness I remember when I used to be able to gorge myself at our family holiday meals. Ate enough for 3 people! Those days are long over. Sometimes the company is better than the meal. 😉☺

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jeanjeannie50 in reply to belindalore

Yes, same here I used to be able to eat loads! Mind you back along we didn't eat between meals. I'm a grazer now.

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Nannysue1 in reply to jeanjeannie50

Jean, skip breakfast and treat it as a brunch?. I couldn't eat 3 courses at lunchtime anyway !. Always look at the menu and decide whether the starters or deserts look more yummy. 😘

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Desanthony in reply to jeanjeannie50

If you can’t say it all ask for. Doggy bag to take the rest home and eat on Monday. Enjoy your meal out x

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Janith in reply to jeanjeannie50

Ditto … yet l find it more annoying than anything … how dare some stupid politician change our time back and forth?

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jeanjeannie50 in reply to Janith

It's seems such a silly thing to do, but has been done for a long time in the UK. There's always talk of stopping it, but it never happens.

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BobDVolunteer in reply to jeanjeannie50

You need to understand the historical background reasons for it Jean. The offical title is "daylight saving." They tried leaving it at "summer time" all year a while back but everybody complained that the children had to go to school in the dark and there were more accidents. Europe is an hour ahead of us anyway. In WWll they had double summer time to help the farmers.

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Singwell in reply to BobD

I remember that year - walking to school in pitch black. It was horrible!

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jeanjeannie50 in reply to Singwell

I don't remember that time at all. Around what year would that have been?

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Singwell in reply to jeanjeannie50

Hmm. My first or 2nd year at grammar school, so I guess 1968/9? I remember it clearly as we all had yellow bands to wear across our coats.

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BobDVolunteer

Always know the clocks go forward a week after my birthday which is 21st. That is the officlal first day of spring. Also the start of what my wife calls "you bloody Aries lot" .

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belindalore in reply to BobD

Hope it's a beautiful spring day for your birthday.

BobD profile image
BobDVolunteer in reply to belindalore

Thank you Belinda. It is always sunny in my life. (I wish)

belindalore profile image
belindalore in reply to BobD

Yes don't we all wish. But you know what? I think this forum is a "bright spot" for many, many people. When they might otherwise be having a "stormy" day.

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Peddling2 in reply to BobD

I’m 21st too. I have always loved the idea of its being spring day.

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Spiritji

I find it very challenging becauseI like to be out at sunset and suddenly I am home late, eating late and late to bed.......I am going to try hard this year to not fall into that but it is difficult.......like I feel I lost an hour and sort of never end up feeling it balances but going to try harder this year. Feel like the time is connected to sun light not to someone's idea of time

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Leechg

Hi, I agree with you, hate the time change. Like you it takes me a while to get used to it. Wish they would keep the same time one way or the other.

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dexter8479

Just read that the US Senate has unanimously voted to stop clock changing and have permanent DSL (which I think is strange choice of the two), but everyone will have a different view on which it should be. Bob, I've always heard that argument about children going to school in the dark too, but since every single kid in the land appears to get dropped off by car at the school gates nowadays, I wonder if that justification still applies? 🤔😉

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BobDVolunteer in reply to dexter8479

It has to be in the last 17 years they tried it as we were in our current house.

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Singwell

HAH exactly the same here. And then if I'm working in Finland or similar where it's 2 hours ahead I suffer again. As for long hauls...

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Jajarunner

Ahhh, yes, the depression of autumn when the clocks go back and suddenly you go to work in the dark and come home in the dark. I do not understand why we cannot stay on BST (British Summer Time) all the year round....

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Auriculaire

We don't change our clocks till the day after so we don't lose out on an hour of sleep just an hour of being awake . If we do less that day too bad- we are retired and can do what we choose . As my circadian rhythm is a bit messed up anyway being a night owl it doesn't make much difference though I usually sleep better in summer due to being outside more in the sun.

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Peileen

Hi belindaloreWe do have clock changes here in UK. The little saying to remind us which way is “Spring forward, Fall back.” My sleep is always disturbed for a couple of weeks too. I remember, I am 74, when they tried keeping British Summer Time all year around 1969/70 to be in line with Europe for business purposes. But for us northern dwellers, I’m Aberdeenshire, and even further north in Orkney and Shetland Islands it was awful. It was pitch black until 10am. Schools were having to start 9.30am instead of 9am. Reflective arm bands and school bags were introduced for children, farmers who already got up in the dark were finding it hard. SAD was on the increase. It was awful so normal time was reintroduced and BST only between spring and fall. I get SAD, it’s not depression as such, but extreme lethargy. Thank goodness I am now retired.

Best wishes belindalore. You will be a sensitive soul and well tuned in to nature.

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Windlepoons in reply to Peileen

Peileen. I used to suffer from SAD and my mother did too. The best thing I ever did was to start taking 5000 iu of vitamin D3 daily a few years ago. I've not suffered since. I'm in Yorkshire which isn't quite as bad for lengths of days as it is for you but I was still affected.

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Peileen in reply to Windlepoons

Hi WindlepoonsI’m so glad you found a solution. I take D3 as well. I used to take St Johns Wort but since going on to an anticoagulant two years ago I had to stop. This past winter I have been particularly lazy but I actually enjoy the laziness, not doing much or going anywhere and even going back to bed, like an annual holiday. It was only a problem when I had to go to work. I lived in Weymouth for 10 years and that was so much better than up here. But I moved back for family. I was born in the wrong place. Best wishes.

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belindalore in reply to Peileen

I think that must be what I suffer from. SAD. It's just something else to deal with when you don't feel well anyway. Ugh. But it looks like the USA may not be changing the clocks ever again if the bill put forward passes in the House. You take care and be safe.

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Jetcat

It definitely is uncertain lately.😢 as for the time changes I personally get low mooded through the winter. There’s nothing nice about waking up when it’s dark outside then battling through a dismal dull cold day waiting for night to start again at tea time.!!

My friend at work loves it.? He says he likes nothing more than to get wrapped up and go for a stroll when it’s cold.!!

I told him he needs help.? It’s not for me at all.

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jeanjeannie50 in reply to Jetcat

I have to say that I like all our seasons. Including staying cosy and warm in winter and the dark evenings when I can just sit and watch t.v. In the summer I always feel as though I should be doing something outside. It wears me out. Having to mow the lawns too!

Jean

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Jetcat in reply to jeanjeannie50

Yes there is that extra work it brings too. Gardening etc. I spend alot of time cutting wood in the summer months to dry out ready for winter.!

I spend many weeks through summer splitting logs, kindling etc and stacking ready for the old log burner to eat it up.?

I use a log splitting machine nowadays but it still keeps me busy while everyone else has got a barbecue going.?

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Omniscient1

Hi Belinda, they change timezones in pretty much every country in the world apart from those close to the equator, though the US is traditionally out of step by a week or two. The situation in Anchorage will be totally different from that in Dallas for instance.It didn't use to bother me (I'm in the UK) but now I notice it. Remember it affects your eating and your "digestion" timings too. So no shame in being put out by it. Gary

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beach_bum

Here in Canada the “daylight savings time” where we “spring forward” and “fall back” are at the same times as the states, excluding Alaska and Hawaii who abolished it. There is also a movement here to get rid of it, as a recent pol showed 80% of Canadians want it gone.It is VERY annoying, however, I doubt any peer reviewed medical studies, have shown a link between DLS and heart attacks in healthy people or increased AFIB events. If there is, please send me the link, it will be an interesting read. 🙂

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belindalore in reply to beach_bum

I only have my cellphone to use to get online. And the one I have limits me to the things I can do with it. But if you search "time change causes heart attack and Afib" you will find many articles on studies done here in the USA about it. Sorry I can't send you a link just to click on. Take care and be safe.

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beach_bum

I found this... heart.org/en/news/2018/10/2...

which most here will agree is a reputable source.

Please read it very carefully . The "Coles notes" version is, that if you have untreated heart conditions such as prior heart attacks and diabetes, you might have a slight short-term increase in risk of another heart attack.

My takeaway is, that most people with diagnosed AFIB that are under control should not needlessly worry.

Flog yer politicians mercilessly (metaphorically speaking of course) to abolish forever this stupid, archaic WW1 induced nonsense.

😆

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belindalore in reply to beach_bum

Thanks for the info.Take care and be safe. The news says another variant of the virus is spreading. 😬

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