Hi all woke up with high heart rate again, this is the forth time it’s happened since ablation two weeks ago, is this normal? Is it to much?

[Electricblue1]

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All there in the fact sheet, often takes a while before it returns to near normal.

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[Electricblue1 in reply to Hidden]

Thank you, I will.

[JohnEagel]

Hello mate,

Don't worry, perfectly within the normal limits after an ablation.

It took me some month to get my rate back down to normal after my ablation.

Take it easy, no stress and you will see it will get better.

Cheers

J

[Electricblue1 in reply to JohnEagel]

Hi , thank you , it’s a waiting game I guess, I’m trying to keep stress down but it’s hard. Thank you for the support.

[Elli86]

Hello electric.

Heart rate will be up and down to be honest. Had mine 12 weeks ago now and my heart rate can fluctuate from 72 to 64 over a week. Not settled at all but fairly normal.

Immediately after ablation it was as high as 85 but slowly dropped down to the range it sits in now over 3/4 weeks.

Good luck 👍

[Electricblue1 in reply to Elli86]

Thank you, my resting heart rate before was 58 and now it’s about 64, is it normal to go into AFIB mode after ablation as well as high heart rate? It has only been two weeks and two days and this is the fifth time it’s happened although this time my Apple Watch is saying AFIB.

[Elli86 in reply to Electricblue1]

I didn’t go into afib at all until a week ago 😫 week 11. Was absolutely gutted and still am but hoping was a blip. My ticker still not feeling as it did and it’s a week later 👎 not good at all. Your heart rate sounds like it hardly went up at all to be honest. Mine was 54 before and 84 for a week after then dropping down to high seventys for a few weeks and now floating around what I mentioned before.

Af in general after an ablation is fairly normal though and isn’t a sign of ablation not working. Hope it works out for you 👍

[Electricblue1 in reply to Elli86]

Hi thank you , my heart rate last night was 130 , that’s if Apple Watch is accurate, lasted 6 hours , my watch flashed up AFIB a couple of times then went back to high heart rate again. It does tend to go on its own now as before I needed to go hospital or take extra pills so let’s hope it’s getting better.Thank again.

[Elli86 in reply to Electricblue1]

My Apple Watch is bang on with the notifications of af every time so I’d assume yours would be too? Which one do you have? My af attack a week ago went on its own as well after 4 hours which it’s never done before pre op. Usually last atleast 18 hours and mainly over 24 before going back to NSR. Hopefully that’s a good sign for both of us 🤞

Arrhythmia nurse told me that it could have just been a one off and that probably worst case scenario I will find that my af attacks will be short lived and few and far between and I’ll probably be able to use pip if I don’t choose to have another ablation. Not what I was hoping for but let’s wait and see.

[Electricblue1 in reply to Elli86]

Hi, I’ve got Apple Watch 6 , I have noticed my high heart rate and AFIB episodes are shorter and do tend to go on there own more. My cardiologist said he wants me to stay on medication but I don’t want to so don’t know what is going to happen there. I speak to him in January. I would have another ablation done though if I have too, how long do you have to leave it in between ablation’s before you have another one done ? .

[Elli86 in reply to Electricblue1]

I’m not too sure to be honest. My EP wants me too come off meds at the end of this month to see if ablation has worked 😬 think I want to taper. When I spoke to her it sounded like a second can happen fairly quickly but she said not too think about the second yet and too keep thinking that the first one has been successful. She thinks my af attack may have been a blip! I bloody hope so 🙏🙏🙏

[Electricblue1 in reply to Elli86]

Hi , yes let’s hope so, sorry it’s taken me a while to get back to you. I’ve had 6 episodes in three weeks so far, but they don’t last long , about four to six hours and they go on there own so I’m hoping that’s good . It always seems to be linked to stress though so I’ve got to be stronger. I would like to exercise but am scared just in case I make things worse for my self if my heart rate has to climb when exercising.

[Elli86 in reply to Electricblue1]

That’s alright not a problem. Jeez sounds like your hearts been pretty active then. Hopefully it’s just settling itself down and once it settles you’ll be on too a winner. Good that they’re not lasting long for sure. I’m the same. My one episode only lasted 4 hours whereas, pre ablation, they last 18 hours+ How old were you again?

In terms of exercise I’ve just been doing walks. Seems to be fine doing 4/5 mile 4/5 times a week. Tried my exercise bike and that wiped me out the following day and I think that may have led to my af attack 😫

[Zeinmassri in reply to Electricblue1]

I have had two ablations with in couple weeks actually first was July 14 and second was aug 3rd and now having to do a third in January hopefully

[Electricblue1 in reply to Zeinmassri]

Hi, I didn’t know you could have them so close together. I’m hoping I don’t have to have another one , just want to get back to normal living. Hope it all works out for you.

[Zeinmassri in reply to Electricblue1]

Yea it’s tough but we have to do what we have to do to keep going. I am going to do what ever it takes to get back to normal and be there for one year old child and my other expected child that’s on the way and I’m firm believer after every hardship comes ease . Thank you I appreciate it I wish you all the best as well . 🌹

[Elli86 in reply to Zeinmassri]

Hi zein.

How old are you if you don’t mind me asking? How are you doing since your second ablation? Do you see any improvement from pre ablation to after your 1st? I’m hoping if I need a second that they can do a fairly quick turnaround also. Did you suggest the quick succession of ops or was it your consultant? If it was the consultant did they say why?

[Zeinmassri in reply to Elli86]

I’m 35 years old and after my second ablation it put my heart on constant flutter confirmed via holter monitor . My cardiologist sent me to another EP who is affiliated with a university health network. So now they are doing all the further testings . I’m from Canada and I think we have a different system than the uk from what I understand.

[Singwell]

How high is high? Were you in AF? Did you wake up suddenly or just noticed it in the morning? My HR us around 20BPM higher on average since ablation. Now I'm used to it I feel better for it - more energy and improved circulation! When we wake up we move from 'sleep stupor' to 'awake mode'. This is a metabolic change and it's quite normal. Our body sends is a nice little shot of cortisol at this point and that's likely what put your HR higher. It usually settles down afterwards as you get on with your day.

[Electricblue1 in reply to Singwell]

Hi, my heart rate only went to 137, it used to go a lot higher before ablation.I’m in AFIB at moment but the other times it’s been high heart rate.

Still trying to understand all this.

Thank you

[Singwell in reply to Electricblue1]

I had lots of runs of AF in the early weeks. Some lasting hours, some minutes. As others have said, give it time. If you don't feel it's dangerous do whatever you need to do to ride it out. Only time will tell.

[Jetcat]

Read the fact sheets as suggested. But My heart rates were up and down for quite a while after my ablations so it all sounds about rite mate. Try not to worry too much and take it easy, Remember your heart won’t be in best of moods so soon after being messed about with and ablated.? All the best mate. Ron👍

[Electricblue1 in reply to Jetcat]

Hi, thank you, that’s a lovely way to put it.I’m in AFIB now as I type this, I always worry it hasn’t worked but I guess time will tell.

Again thank you.

[Jetcat in reply to Electricblue1]

No worries. It’s a bugger is our afib sometimes but we always seem to get there in the end.👍

[Singwell]

You know what I've found? The more I worried about whether it had worked or not, the worse I felt because it made me stressed. Once I'd accepted that it hadn't worked as well as we'd hoped - which btw we suspected at the time - I began to relax about it all. I've stopped trying to feel better so life IS better. Weird how our brain affects everything.

[Electricblue1 in reply to Singwell]

Hi , yeah I so desperately want it to work so I can get back to normal life and work, I have to be stable to go back to my job.I also think because my cardiologist said not to take extra pills when in AFIB or with high heart rate I panic more as before I took extra and most of the time it stopped.

[Singwell]

Yes, I totally relate to that. You don't feel I'm control whereas previously the extra pills allowed you to feel some control over stopping it. If it's any help, some of my AF episodes within the first three weeks didn't respond to extra pills and just carried on. Or sometimes stopped for 20 minutes then came back. It was completely different to my normal 'pattern' of once every 6-8 weeks. But it DID get better. Suddenly the episodes seemed to go on their own if I just relaxed and stayed calm. That had never happened before! Then they got shorter and with lower heart rates. Then they pretty much stopped... except I still get them about once every 6-8 weeks. That's why we know the ablation hasn't really been a success. But the episodes are shorter, less symptomatic and now I don't seem to need to take extra medication. It could be all this disturbance in your case will stop over the next couple of weeks. I don't know your age, if you have dependents or what your employment situation is but...work can wait. You need time for your heart to adjust. It takes 12 weeks for the cellular healing.

[Electricblue1 in reply to Singwell]

Thank you, talking to others really helps.I’m 52 and I was doing lorry driving , I have two sons but they are grown up now.

A very toxic partner but I have been doing a lot of meditation and it really helps. Stress is my biggest problem but it’s just a case of taking myself off away from him and taking time out .

My episodes do go on there own now as before they didn’t , last nights was 6 hours long but just stopped on it’s own in the end.

I’m taking that as a good sign hopefully 🤞, it’s nice to hear others stories and wha5 they go through .

Thank you again .

[Singwell in reply to Electricblue1]

🤞🤞🤞