Well, this is deja vu. My first ablation worked lovely until I had the Covid jab in march. That lead to a second ablation in April which was fine until I had the flu jab yesterday. Went into tachycardia in the night and then into "fast Afib" and struggled to breathe so ambulance took me to hospital yet again. Trying IV flecainide.... fingers crossed.
As you can imagine I'm beyond upset. I've just finally returned to work and started to get my life back together after the long ablation recovery. I even rode my 'proper' bike last week....
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When I had my last flu jab about ten years ago I felt a slight amount of breathlessness so went back to the surgery. It wore off after an hour or two and they told me not to have the flu jab again.
Sorry you are going through this. My reaction arrhythmia wise to my flu jab on Monday was much less traumatic than yours albeit it did cause afib. Vaccines always do where i am concerned guess its the body reacting to substances injected and engendering a response. Hope IV flecainide works for you it has done for me in the past. Best wishes.
Hope you get it sorted. Wondered why you were having emergency cardioversion as I was given meds instead but see why you need it for sure. Hope all ok mate!
Sadly the drugs never work for me. And yesterday started to get scary. My local hospital is very very reluctant to do CVs and even they suddenly went "emergency one needed"! Exhausted today ☺️
Not surprised you are exhausted and probably not a little scared. Anything wrong with the heart seems to make the body anxious which is unhelpful. We all feel for you. I had just been starting to get into some sort of rhythm when I had my first covid jab and have been in A/F ever since but in a way that I can live with. I cannot help feeling that covid would have finished me off so A/F is a relatively small price to pay. Due to have my flue jab shortly - if they have the vaccine - and am not looking forward to the after effects. My husband has just had his 3rd covid jab with no ill effects at all although he had none for his first two either so we were not expecting any.
Many years ago an emergency cardioversion was once going to be given to me in A&E, they said it would be done without any anaesthetic. Well you've never seen anyone's heart go back into normal rhythm so quick, thank goodness!
Hello Jean, I know you are very knowledgeable on the subject of Afib and always find your comments informative. I sometimes read that people are booked ahead for cardioversions. my question is 'If such people are in NSR on the day - how do they do it, or are these people who are in permanent AF. I had a cardioversion, I do not have symptoms with my PAF and I went to my Cardio( for a routine check) whose rooms are at a private hospital (he is private) and he he told me I am in AF, would I like a cardioversion,I said since I'm here why not ! he said I'll do it this afternoon , so I was booked into the Cardio ward, he came in the after noon I was given a mild sedative, attached to some wires - That's all I remember until I was eating a chicken sandwich and drinking tea, I was back in Normal rhythm in what seems to be minutes - when I asked, only one 'shock was needed'. I live in South Africa, so maybe things are different, but I am still puzzled as to how a cardioversion can be booked ahead for someone who is not arrythmiatic at he time , can you explain please.
This happened to me, but the procedure was cancelled as my heart had gone back into normal rhythm before the CV was needed. Presumably, the bisoprolol had done its trick. They won't carry out a CV procedure on a normally beating heart.
Thanks Steve, it was the mention of pre-booking that puzzled me as I know I was offered the procedure during a routine check up and my heart was fibrillating (unknown to me). I was given the choice , simple procedure he could do in that day or just carry on with my meds. I think that just being in a doctor's rooms is a trigger for Afib for me !
The cardioversion is booked because you are stuck in AF, obviously if you went back into normal sinus rhythm before the procedure it wouldn't need doing. I'd always have to wait weeks in AF (which drained me and was quite disabling) before I could get one. My AF nurse said more and more people are needing them now, including young people, so there's quite a queue waiting for them.
I guess if your heart rate was dangerous they might do it immediately. I was in hospital for almost a week before the consultants did my very first one. It was a Saturday morning and one of them had come in especially to assist. I was horrified when one of them said to the other shall we do it here in the ward. I knew they were going to give me a general anaesthetic, they kept saying have we got this and that, but did move me to a side room. An anaesthetist was there too. What I didn't realise is that a cardioversion is a very simple procedure, they just put connections on your chest, fire the shock and that's it. Mine has always gone back into normal rhythm after one shock, but I believe they can try up to three times.
You would never be booked for a cardioversion unless you were in constant AF. I once went back into normal rhythm right before a cardioversion and of course it wasn't needed then. You are always connected to a heart and BP monitor.
Are you becoming confused between ablations and cardioversions, because ablations can be booked when you're in normal sinus rhythm?
No Jean, no confusion, my son had an ablation - he is one of the extreme athletes who are according to my Cardio are half of his patients - no it's just that I have read on this site of people who are on a waiting list for cardioversions, that is what puzzled me - maybe they meant to say ablations! Thank you for clarifying it for me.
There certainly is waiting lists for cardioversions. I guess if you went to A&E and someone was on duty who'd done them - then you may get one right away.
Hi kkatz, I said I'd get back to you when I'd had my cardioversion after an 8 month wait.
Well, I had it yesterday and went into sinus rhythm on the first go. Such a relief. So, I'd think your chances of reverting would be good. I hope the appointment comes soon.
I had a flu jab last week in order to get it in before the cardioversion to avoid the risk of a return to AF. I shall think carefully about having a booster for covid.
I had one last Friday. Only lasted 2 days but weirdly went back into NSR Wednesday...gone again now... but you never know. It could make another comeback! Good luck to you. Hope it lasts a good while for you. 🤞
I'm so sorry to read all this as I know you were doing well again. Perhaps this is something to discuss with your medical advisors once all is stable again. You stepped down before, hopefully you'll do so again.
What have the doctors said? Was the af caused by an increase in HR caused by the vaccination? My HR increased by 50% after 1st Covid jab (from 62 ish to 95 ish, sitting), lasted 15 hours or so. Good luck, I’m just starting to ride my ‘proper bike’ again 6 weeks after ablation albeit at half speed. Hoping to delay eBike for a few years yet, but trialling a nice looking Orbea Gain on Tuesday.
And what's your medical degree status? You must have one to come up with such a theory. No?
The vaccination against Covid 19 is NOT experimental! It's now been administered to millions of people around the world. Stop spreading this rubbish. You endanger others when you do. No one cares if you are too daft to have it. But don't scare others off.
Millions may have had C ovid jab but surely you see after barely a year that this is still in experimental stage and the millions that have taken are part of the experiment it's a no brainer if however we were 10 years down the line it would be a different story
It is experimental till the phase 3 clinical trials are finished. They are not. If you look on clinical trials .gov you can look up the details as this is a site where all serious clinical trials are registered. There you will find the start date of trials, the protocols ,endpoints investigated , number of participants and when the trial is going to end. None of the trials for the vaccines currently available have ended. Just because it has been given to millions of people does not make it not experimental in terms of the clinical trials. The vaccine roll out is simply a gigantic extension of the phase 3 trial.
best not abuse other posters, just offer new data and observations that may allow a different hypothesis, which you have not done. Here is some data from a BMJ webinar Sept 14th 21 that has a lot of trials completion dates in it. Then posters can make up their own minds, and not be intimidated
I had my flu jab yesterday and my AF was not happy last night...... didn't last too long and wasn't bad but it was the first episode I've had since May.
My latest ardioversion 4 weeks ago lasted 2 weeks 🙄. Hopefully, yours lasts a lot longer. There was talk of folk having the flu jab and booster jab together........ not on your nelly!
I get sick of reading about these "experimental" jabs, which fortunately only come from the fringes. This is COVID-19. Scientists and doctors have been working on COVID vaccines for many, many years. I've had my two vaccines and my booster with zero problems. Anyone that thinks vaccinations do anything but save lives is depressingly mistaken. For some reason this vaccine was wrongly politicized. As a a result, the death rate in the state I live and other Southern states is avoidably terrifyingly high. Sad on so many levels.
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