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I hope that in the future, when we are all long gone, that someone learns this forum existed. That this was a place people could find hope and guidance. I hope someone in the future writes (or whatever they will do then) about this forum. How people here were so caring for one another. How they supported one another and listened to one another. Even though they may not have agreed with each other. I hope those in the future learn that even though there was so much turmoil in the world while this forum existed, that people could still love one another and show compassion....

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That's a lovely post of yours Belinda. I agree with all you've said.

In general people that come on to this forum looking for AF advice and information are given a warm welcome. I particularly like the posts of people who have researched the condition and who may share the knowledge and information that has helped them to lead a normal life again. I'm not sure if it was on this one or the BHF forum, but recently someone has said that they can halt their AF attacks by lying on the floor and putting their legs and feet up on a chair. I've stored that bit of info away to try should the need arise. Have seen references to similar manoeuvres to that in the past.

If anyone tries it and it works, please let us know here.


Thank you jean. I know sometimes I go off a little bit in the deep end when I've posted here and sometimes I'll stand my ground. But I always come away knowing that people here still believe in free speech. (If you've been following what's been happening here in the USA, people here worry about losing more of our free speech. It's scary here.) That they are compassionate souls and have empathy and sympathy for all who come here. People truly want to help. It's like you can feel everyone's arms wrapping around you to say it will be alright. 😔💖

And yes so many have done so much research and are eager to share it. If what they learn or do for themselves makes it all worthwhile.

Yes I've read about that maneuver you mentioned. Maybe it was here. ☺ Hard to keep track of all the info we get. You do your share of research I see from reading your posts. It's all about sharing and helping.

Have a great rest of your day. Take care. Be safe.

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BobDVolunteer in reply to belindalore

It was here a couple of days ago.

Whatever helps whoever is worth it I guess.

Whilst I do understand your thought process I prefer to hope that in the future there will be no AF to worry about and that is will be as simple to cure as a tooth filling and just as quick.

As MLK once said "I have a dream! "

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belindalore in reply to BobD

Yes that would be so nice. No Afib or quick to fix like a tooth as you said.😌Take care and be safe.

I was taught that manoeuvre by the paramedics - often worked for me but you had to get someone else to lift your legs straight up quite quickly.

Yes, I remember seeing a video of the procedure you mention where someone has to lift your legs. Living on my own, like others who do, we can at least try the legs up on a chair without needing help from anyone else.

Will have to remember that maneuver! New to me!

Beautifully said Belinda!! Regards


Thank you Lynne. I hope everyone here feels the same way about this forum.

That was a nice post and would be good if it happened. Likewise it would also be nice if in the future Afib was all a dream. I’ll have to remember that manoeuvre if and when Afib calls again. I usually go through the whole gambit when it does and will try anything once. I must read posts and answers more carefully in future. I read them all every morning over the first cuppa, as I am now, and just don’t remember seeing it mentioned a few days ago. Hope I haven’t missed other nuggets of useful information. x

Lovely thoughts Belinda. I'm with Bob on this - AF ought to be unnecessary! But there'll always be illness around and the important thing is the desire to connect and to help each other.

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belindalore in reply to Singwell

Maybe someday many illnesses won't be around. We will not know. But it's nice to think that Afib and other illnesses could be unheard of in the future. And hopefully the desire for people to help each other will never go away. Take care.

Lovely sentiment Belinda. Now if only the whole world could be like us…………..

I (somewhere?) had a clip from one of the US papers entitled - All you need to live your life you will learn in Nursery school - how to share your toys - to say please and thank you - that biscuits and milk are good at break time - to hold hands and stay together when out in the big outside world and to have a nap after lunch.

Now what got in the way of us all doing that?

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belindalore in reply to CDreamer

Yes the world would be such a better place. Take care.

I found it online - yeah! It really made an impression on me when I first read it. I’m sure many will remember it but worth rereading anyway - thank you Belinda for the reminder.

All I Really Need To Know I Learned In Kindergarten

by Robert Fulghum

All I really need to know I learned in kindergarten.

ALL I REALLY NEED TO KNOW about how to live and what to do and how to be I learned in kindergarten. Wisdom was not at the top of the graduate-school mountain, but there in the sandpile at Sunday School. These are the things I learned:

Share everything.

Play fair.

Don't hit people.

Put things back where you found them. Clean up your own mess.

Don't take things that aren't yours.

Say you're sorry when you hurt somebody. Wash your hands before you eat.


Warm cookies and cold milk are good for you.

Live a balanced life - learn some and think some and draw and paint and sing and dance and play and work every day some.

Take a nap every afternoon.

When you go out into the world, watch out for traffic, hold hands, and stick together.

Be aware of wonder.

Remember the little seed in the styrofoam cup:

The roots go down and the plant goes up and nobody really knows how or why, but we are all like that. Goldfish and hamsters and white mice and even

the little seed in the Styrofoam cup - they all die.

So do we.

And then remember the Dick-and-Jane books and the first word you learned - the biggest word of all - LOOK.

Everything you need to know is in there somewhere. The Golden Rule and love and basic sanitation. Ecology and politics and equality and sane living.

Take any of those items and extrapolate it into sophisticated adult terms and apply it to your family life or your work or your government or

your world and it holds true and clear and firm.

Think what a better world it would be if

all - the whole world - had cookies and milk about three o'clock every afternoon and then lay down with our blankies for a nap. Or if all governments

had a basic policy to always put thing back where they found them and to clean up their own mess.

And it is still true, no matter how old you

are - when you go out into the world, it is best to hold hands and stick together.

© Robert Fulghum, 1990.

Found in Robert Fulghum, All I Really Need To Know I Learned In Kindergarten Villard Books: New York, 1990, page 6-7.

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Auriculaire in reply to CDreamer

Mostly good stuff. I think flushing every time might be controversial these days due to water conservation! Washing your hands before you eat prevents you from ingesting soil borne bacteria if you have been out gardening.

lol! If I’m taking a gardening break for a snack, my husband will look at my hands and ask if I’m really going to eat w those hands! 😂

Say " yes - I'm improving my gut bacteria and strengthening my immune system! ".

Exactly! 🤣

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belindalore in reply to CDreamer


Very well put, I think the key to the success of this forum is treating each other with compassion and respect, and avoiding the attrition and unpleasantness which many other social forums fall into, long may it continue.

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belindalore in reply to tunybgur


This forum is a great resource, manned by a core of knowledgeable people who have been through the whole gamut of AF protocols. More medics should read regularly here, then they may become better informed. The occasional disputes are interesting to read because views are strongly held. For the rest of us, we can listen and learn and make our own minds up. Thanks to all, regular contributors or newbies, your experiences are valuable to the rest of us, and belindalore is right to wish for more of the same (though Bob's wish is appealing, too)

I wonder how many Drs may be looking here in this forum and we don't know it. People can be anonymous. Drs could certainly learn a lot reading what people post here. How many would truly listen? It's good that we can help each other. Sometimes more than the Drs.

Take care and be safe.

That’s all very nice and all but what of the people who have AF in the future? Is there to be no forum for them to share and care? What happened to cause the demise of the forum? Has AF been eradicated?

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belindalore in reply to CliveP

I was thinking hypothetically. And thinking of the future decades from now where maybe Afib has been eradicated. None of us will be here to know. But it's nice to think that Afib and other illnesses could be unheard of in the future.

This is a lovely post. Thank you. If the things I have been reading are true then we will be getting medbeds in the future that will heal the whole body. How wonderful.😊

Ooo that would be something! Take care.

Sounds a bit 'Star Trek' to me , I would be very happy to have a future 'Bones' wave a scanner over my body and cure my Af. I saw him do it in one programme and thought at the time ' that's cool' . They were ahead of their time 😆.

I was a great Star Trek fan too. So many great quotes a lot of us still use. Beam me up Scottie, it's life Jim but not as we know it and she cannae take it Jim are my favourites. They don't make em like that any more.🤔☺️

Some of the things we have now were inspired by Star Trek. Holograms, 3-D printers and phasers are a few. I think I read somewhere that cellphones were inspired by Star Trek. The original show didn't last long but ended up making quite an impression. Remember the tribbles? Those furry creatures that multiplied worse than rabbits? 😳😂

I agree belindore, this forum makes you feel you’re not alone, and makes you feel safe(er).

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belindalore in reply to Cha275rL

Yes it does.

Great post Belinda. This forum is my first stop when I open my tablet nearly every morning and I really appreciate the advice and experience of others who have been suffering from this condition far longer and more acutely than I have. How are you getting on in your own afib journey? Have you managed to find a treatment regime that suits you?.

I have gone the natural route. Is it perfect? No. But I have a cardio Dr now who understands my intolerance to pharma drugs. Still have good days and bad. But better than when taking the pharma meds. Thank you. Take care.

I have also taken the natural route. What I’ve learned on this forum is what led me in that direction. And no it’s not perfect, but neither is taking dangerous medication. And furthermore we should NEVER allow government to restrict or eliminate our right to free speech. For all the obvious reasons. Good day

You are so right. Thank you. Take care and be safe.

What is the natural route? Thanks

Well said Belinda, I couldn’t agree more.👍

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belindalore in reply to Jetcat

You take care also Jetcat. 💖

What a beautiful sentiment 💝

Wouldn't it be wonderful if Afib no longer existed? Take care and be safe.😔

Great post. The love for mankind and not money certainly resonated with me as I follow with total disbelief, for us here in the UK & in the States as well, the censorship of the drug Ivermectin to prevent and treat Covid, which could have saved so many lives and much misery.

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SteelHeart in reply to secondtry

Chloquine and Ivermectin are the disturbing factors in the game... Maybe this link helps:

Regards! P.

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