How long will magnesium work for.?

[Jetcat]

Does anyone know how long magnesium supplements work for.? I was diagnosed with lone afib 7 or 8 years ago and have undergone 3 pvi ablations in that time. now around 6 months ago out of desperation of not been able to see my cardiologist due to the Covid-19 situation I started myself on 250mg magnesium daily to try and ease my constant ectopics burden.! within just one or 2 week they eased by over 90%. and for the first time in years I have not had one bout of afib either. I have always got a bout of early hours afib every 4 to 6 weeks for as long I can remember but this has stopped since the magnesium intake. I’m enjoying the NSR and just hoping it lasts a while longer. Ron.👍

[BobD Volunteer]

Lucky you Ron. Don't knock it. Be positive.

[Jetcat in reply to BobD]

Yeah thanks mate, here’s to hoping.!!😂

[secondtry]

If it works the advice is simple stick with the same. As we are all different, the effect of supplementing with magnesium is going to be different. I am trying to work out why I can't lift my Red Cell magnesium levels but as I have been on it AF free for 7 yrs I keep taking it.

[Jetcat in reply to secondtry]

I definitely will stick with it. Thankyou 👍

[ZuckerRat in reply to secondtry]

Many people can't move their Mg as they are not absorbing it. Form is important (tartrate or ox) as well as gut health. Kyolic Liquid can fix that. Also using Mg oil can be valuable as it bypasses the digestive system completely.

[The_Lord_is_with_Us]

I been ectopic free for years on magnesium. Might last the rest of your life ... if your lucky.

Magnesium is a miracle. It's used in over 300 enzymatic processes in the body. Most people are deficient. It's generally regarded as safe for everyone. And it's calmative and helps with sleep. Glad to hear you are getting great results. Hope it lasts forever ......

[Jetcat in reply to The_Lord_is_with_Us]

Thankyou my friend

[brit1 in reply to The_Lord_is_with_Us]

which form of magnesium do you take? thnx

[Jetcat in reply to brit1]

Hi Brit, I started taking magnesium oxide. But Iv since learnt that oxide is not the better one to take as the body doesn’t absorb it as good as the others.! But I’ll stick with this even though it’s not the best one as I don’t want to spoil things.

[brit1 in reply to Jetcat]

yes havae heard its not the best but if its working then thats good! I do take Dr Sinatras Broad Spectrum Complex magnesium

[The_Lord_is_with_Us in reply to brit1]

Dr. Sinatra's brand is probably great. I've taken Swanson Vitamins Triple Magnesium Complex. They ship internationally.

[Lacarno in reply to The_Lord_is_with_Us]

Do you have to ask Doc about taking magnesium or can you just take it , if so does it affect your meds

[The_Lord_is_with_Us in reply to Lacarno]

It's fairly safe. Many doctors recommend taking it. However, you can ask your doctor about it. But remember .... many mainstream doctors know very little about beneficial supplements or healthful nutrition. They just don't get any meaningful classes in med school about it, unfortunately.

[Jetcat in reply to The_Lord_is_with_Us]

I think your rite about that too.

[Hidden]

It should work just as long as you keep breathing.The most overlooked mineral in the body essential for maintaining life.

[Jetcat in reply to Hidden]

The difference it’s made to me personally is unbelievable to be honest, especially for the amount of years Iv lived with ectopics, palps 20+. Then last 8 years with afib thrown in for good measure.!!!!

[Mugsy15]

Aged 59 I have suffered from arrythmias for decades and last year went into persistent AF.

I had a Cardioversion in November and have been mostly in sinus rhythm since, with bursts of AF, especially when working hard or exercising, and regular ectopics and other strange goings-on. I don't take any meds.

I've discussed ablation with my very caring cardio practitioner and we agreed to wait and monitor for now. She suggested joining this forum.

I read these posts, and despite being a real cynic about supplements, which have never done anything for me, I ordered some Triple Magnesium Complex (Citrate, Taurate and Bisglycinate) by Igennus on Ebay, and my wife ordered me some CoQ10 from her favoured supplier Lily Loaf. I thought it couldn't hurt to give it a shot.

I've been taking them for about a week. There was no change for the first 3 days or so.

Yesterday morning I was lying in bed dozing and waking - usually a time when I suffer a lot of arrythmia. It suddenly dawned on me that I hadn't noticed anything other than normal rhythm all the time I'd been lying there, and in fact for a couple of days. Instead of lying listening to my heart, I'd forgotten about it. As I type this I'm still experiencing calm in my chest. I have had the odd little blip, but it feels gentle, rather than the banging, insistent disturbances I usually suffer.

My cynicism tells me these things go in spells; to expect arrythmia swooping back in with a vengeance just when I've started to believe the supplements have helped.

But for now, I'm enjoying the break and very curious to see if it lasts.

I shall let you know, fellow AFibbers.

[Jetcat in reply to Mugsy15]

I’m same as you to be honest. And I’m taking it day by day and monitoring the situation. I still get the odd missed beat or so through out the day on some days but it’s nothing compared to what Id been getting for nearly 30 years. I have never gone so long in NSR as I have done since taking this magnesium even after 3 PVI ablations. The ablations improved things anyway yes but I still had a regular AFIB and ECTOPICS burden regularly.! More ectopics than afib though.

[Mugsy15 in reply to Jetcat]

Sorry it's taken a while to reply. It does seem your symptoms are similar to mine, although it sounds like you're ahead of me in your relationship with AF. I wore a 4-day monitor recently with a button on it that allowed me to time stamp any events, and it was almost all sinus rhythm (including regular arrythmias), with a 5-min period of AF during which I didn't press the button, so it mustn't have felt much. Do you take an anticoagulent?

[Jetcat in reply to Mugsy15]

I was taking warfarin for a couple of years but my cardiologist eventually took me off it after my ablations because he said my chads were nil.

[Lacarno in reply to Mugsy15]

You really should take a blood thinner aren’t you worried about having a stroke or heart attack with having AFib as you are very high risk are you aware of that ?

[Mugsy15 in reply to Lacarno]

No, I'm not worried about that at all. My score for increased risk is nil. That may change of course but the outlook for now is that In 6 years time when I'm 65 that score will increase to 1. At that point I will sit down with my cardio practitioner and consider whether or not to begin taking anticoagulants, weighing the inherent risks against benefit.

You say I'm at 'very high risk', the statistics don't support that assertion.

[Mugsy15 in reply to Mugsy15]

Well, it's now a fortnight since I noticed a marked improvement in my arrythmia and posted it on here after I began taking magnesium and CoQ10 supplements. I didn't know whether I was just experiencing a coincidental quiet time or if the supplements were having a real effect. Time to report further.

I do still have periods during which I'm aware of disturbed rhythm, especially when (and for a while after) working hard, exercising strenuously or not fully hydrated, so the supplements have not stopped those.

However, they are less frequent and more gentle. Before the supplements I used to regularly (probably daily) feel a single ectopic which was more unpleasant and alarming than the usual ones. Difficult to describe, but more like a spasm. I haven't had any of those at all.

So my conclusion is that whilst Magnesium and CoQ10 have not (unsurprisingly) taken my arrythmias away, I'm now sure they have 'smoothed them out' significantly.

I can wake/doze for a couple of hours in the morning previous to getting up, and experience what certainly feels like perfect, gentle sinus rhythm throughout. I previously never went that long without ectopics. I've been very 'heart aware' for a long time and that has improved too - now and again I will realise that I haven't paid any attention to my heart for several hours.

On the basis of all of the above I now consider Magnesium and CoQ10 part of my daily routine for the foreseeable.

I may at some stage drop the CoQ10 for a week or two to see if it is actually only the Magnesium doing the good work, and I'll be open to trying other supplements such as Potassium or Vitamin C if I read positive reports.

Should I find reduced efficacy with time or any other related developments I'll post them on here.

[Mugsy15 in reply to Lacarno]

Further to my earlier reply, I would invite you to look at a video entitled 'Why I don't believe Afib causes strokes' by Dr Sanjay Gupta of York Hospital. As always, he explains with great clarity why AFib isn't even part of the calculation in the Chad2Vasc scoring system for assessing increased risk of stroke or other ischaemic events. The real risk factors are co-morbities like diabetes, obesity, aged 65+, heart disease, heart failure and historical stroke. AFib gets blamed because it is very often present in those with the above conditions.

[S11m]

I take magnesium... for cramp etc., but I have not had much AF for some time.

Losing 35 kg, three Cardioversions, two Catheter Ablations and two pacemakers might have helped.

[Kett123]

Does anyone know the best form of magnesium for af and how much u should take?

[Jetcat in reply to Kett123]

Hi kett, I take magnesium oxide250mg sometimes 350 mg daily and luckily it’s helped me greatly. But if I’d done my research before taking oxide I would have chose a different sort as oxide is not absorbed by the body as good as the others you can take.!! Do some research and use this site as the help and advice you get here is fantastic.

[Kett123 in reply to Jetcat]

thanks Jetcat

[Mugsy15 in reply to Kett123]

Hi, did you decide on which Magnesium you want to take? I did a bit of reading on here as well as watching Sanjay Gupta's video on Magnesium and the forms which seemed to be mosr recommended were Taurate (with some people saying they take Taurine as well), Bisglycenate and Citrate. Oxide is not considered so effective. As per my original post I found a triple combo of all 3 on Ebay by Igennus. There are several suppliers and I simply chose the cheapest.

[ZuckerRat]

Mg deficiency is a HUGE issue all over the world due to dietary choices and depleted soil conditions. Mg is also EXTREMELT important to healthy heart and muscle functions. 250 mg of Mg per day is a fairly low dose, but I am not surprised that you have seen improvements from it.

Have your Mg tested, but be sure you are getting the correct test. The serum Mg test is virtually useless. You need the RBC Mg test. Many docs just order the serum value.

get the book "Is Your Cardiologist Killing You?" by Dr. Sherry Rogers. It is a goldmine of information and there is much about Mg.