The new shielding list that government has produced from the new data atrial fibrillation is on the list ? Anyone else seen this ? It’s under the cardiovascular diseases list.
Now hoping I might get vaccine earlier 🤞
New data for clinically vulnerable - Atrial Fibrillati...
New data for clinically vulnerable
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Slightly selfish reply on my part because I was lucky enough to have my jab 2 weeks ago but to be honest, I would prefer not to considered clinically vulnerable! Are you sure you are right because I couldn’t find it in the latest gov.uk webpage updated today........
gov.uk/government/publicati...
bantam12 in reply to
Afib comes under moderate risk on the new shielding list but I'm not sure if it means actual shielding or not, bit confusing.
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A lot of things are when we talk about vaccines, AF and Covid......keeps us on our toes if nothing else!
Janelr in reply to
This is where I read digital.nhs.uk/coronavirus/... to bottom the lists under cardiovascular atrial fibrillation is there along with heart disease
Janelr in reply to
Guess it’s a bit late I’ve been lucky so far not had it and had to go out to work but would rather have it soon as possible hoping this is going to bump me up the list x
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Can’t advise Jane but I share your thinking.....😉
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Aye....t’is there....
GrannyE in reply to
found this on bhf website
'I have atrial fibrillation - am I at increased risk of coronavirus?
If you have atrial fibrillation (AF) or another heart rhythm problem, there isn’t enough information at the moment to tell if it puts you at higher risk from coronavirus complications. It seems likely that if your atrial fibrillation is well controlled (you're being treated for the condition and the treatment has lowered your heart rate towards the normal range), your risk is lower.
We’re sorry that we can’t offer you more certainty. We would recommend caution and minimising your risk of getting coronavirus as much as possible. For example, by strictly sticking to the guidance, strictly following social distancing and washing your hands frequently.'
I presume this is still up to date
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It’s difficult to say Granny, since the beginning of the pandemic we were told that lone AF did not cause any additional problems for anyone suffering with coronavirus. This past week, there does seem to be a shift in government recommendations and there are various links to them in this, and other related posts. As we all know, everything to do with Coronavirus is under constant review but all of us here only have access to the same information which is in the public domain. No doubt, some here will have different views but if people’s motivation is to quicken their access to having a vaccine then it makes sense to give it a try and make a booking. Of course, it may be the government just wants to get folk with any heart related problem covered but I don’t think anyone here really knows anything other than what is in the links......hope this helps....
Wife has been offered her jab. As she's in the 60 -65 group then the only reason is her AF has put her in the clinically vulnerable group.
Ahh wow so they have changed it then
It's been on there since at least the 6th Jan this year...
england.nhs.uk/coronavirus/...
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Having clicked on the link and scrolled down to the Qcovid risk calculator, I am ranked 79 out of 100, where 100 is the most vulnerable:The risk table
The table shows the absolute risk of catching and dying COVID-19 over a 90-day period based on data from the first peak of the pandemic. There is a comparison with the risk for a person of the same age and sex but with no risk factors. The relative risk is the absolute risk divided by this average risk.
Absolute risk (a) Absolute risk with no risk factors (b) Relative risk (a/b)
COVID associated death 0.0328% 1 in 3049 0.0319% 1 in 3135 1.0282
COVID associated hospital admission 0.1431% 1 in 699 0.1032% 1 in 969 1.3866
In other words in a crowd of 10000 people with the same risk factors, 3 are likely to catch and die from COVID-19 and 14 to be admitted to hospital during a 90 day period similar to the recent peak.
The Body Mass index is 25.1 kg/m2
COVID associated death
The absolute risk of a COVID-19 associated death is 1 in 3049.
This is in rank 79 out of 100, where 100 is most at risk.
So I suppose I am not most clinically vulnerable but still in the too 25% of risk. So I am glad I have strictly followed the rules about social interaction and get my shopping delivered.
Oh just done it I’m ranked 58 so not as high x
Sorry, how did you work out 25% of risk? Sorry if I’ve missed something
Hi Reena, if you input your info into the assessment tool, it will rank you from 1 to 100, with 100 being the most clinically vulnerable. My score was 79, so I am in the top 25%of most vulnerable people.
Thanks - do you know who would be sent a letter for shielding? My score is 88
No I don’t know where they will draw the line but I should imagine 88 will be and I will maybe at 79.We have to wait and see.
I don’t think we can assume we are on the shielding list because of AF and it involves a number of factors. Is that everyone’s take on it?
Hi Reena 
I agree.
I think some confusion has been caused because it is not always appreciated that there are 2 groups 1) People at high risk , The 'Extremely Clinically Vulnerable' and 2) people at moderate risk .''The Clinically vulnerable'' as set out below...nhs.uk/conditions/coronavir...
I am in the second group and at moderate risk 'Clinically Vulnerable' and it states in the article..
''Unlike people at high risk, you will not get a letter from the NHS.
What to do if you're at moderate risk
If you're at moderate risk from coronavirus, it's very important to follow social distancing advice to reduce your chances of catching or spreading the virus.''
I have been voluntarily shielding for a year because I am over 70 with AF and asthma and I consider the 3 things together put me at a higher risk than someone with just one but I am not on any shielding list and didn't receive the original letter.
It's been on there since at least the 6th Jan this year...(Appendix A)
england.nhs.uk/coronavirus/...
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I thought I was going to be further down the list but I was contacted and had my first jab last week. I assume therefore I was assessed in light if the new changed list.
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